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    question relating to checkvalve - Provent and TD5

    Hi guys

    i have a question relating to the checkvalve used in the provent..

    Now if i am right it has to be installed so that the suction of the inlet system sucks the provent valve shut therefore holding any oil back... when the engine is turned off there is no suction so the valve opens allowing any oil to run back down the pipe to the sump (assuming i have it conigured as most have with a t section added to the turbo return line)

    Now the question... how much oil flows back down that return pipe (as its fairly large bored) and what happens if that check valve fails? basically if it does and the return pipe is full of oil (which i doubt) will it not suck the oil back up into the provent and ultimately straight into the inlet system?

    Just thinking out loud!

    Steve

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    My setup would have +ve pressure inside the provent. The stop valve prevents oil traveling up the drain from the block.
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    Mine drains into a plastic bottle. So far I only have to empty it every oil change. But it only had about 20ml of oily crap. It took awhile before any oil even made its way into the bottle.
    I have the checkvalve on it, but mainly because I thought I would end up loosing it if it wasn't attached to the Disco.

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    I agree with rar110. I think the check valve is only required if the return is above the oil level in the sump. It is to stop blow-by going back up into the provent.

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    ok and as my return line returns to a T peice above the flexy braided section of the turbo return feed (ie above the oil level) i need it..

    However from what i read, the provent is under suction as the air intake pulls the gasses through the provent, therefore the check valve needs to close with suction to stop oil being pulled up through the return...

    Or am i very wrong here? I'm just trying to work out which way round it goes... and what happens if the valve fails.. and as a side ... find out how much oil returns back down the turbo return line...

    confused...

    Steve

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    Steve, the check valve stops crank pressure from being pushed back into the Provent. As the drain is the filtered side of the PCV, it would essentially just go straight up the drain hose and into the turbo suction. The positive pressure would stop any gas flow through the actual element.

    Position the check valve so it flows from the vent back to the engine. When engine is running, check valve will close and when stopped valve will open and drain any oil in it back to the crankcase.

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    Mine drains oil to the same point as the oil drain for the alternator/vac pump. Oil could possibly flow back up to the Provent if the valve wasn't fitted.

    I fitted a more modern tappet cover at the same time as the provent. Only a minute amount of oil is now venting from the top of the motor. I will also vent from the crank case - probably a lot more oil when I vent from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teve View Post
    ok and as my return line returns to a T peice above the flexy braided section of the turbo return feed (ie above the oil level) i need it..

    However from what i read, the provent is under suction as the air intake pulls the gasses through the provent, therefore the check valve needs to close with suction to stop oil being pulled up through the return...

    Or am i very wrong here? I'm just trying to work out which way round it goes... and what happens if the valve fails.. and as a side ... find out how much oil returns back down the turbo return line...

    confused...

    Steve
    Yes, your little valve will stop high pressure on the engine side coming back into the provent. Having the provent at a lower pressure than the crankcase (vacuum as you say) is the same thing as far as the valve is concerned.

    We are saying the same thing.

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