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    clutch or slave cylinder?

    Hi all,
    My clutch take-up point is almost on the floor on my 92 Disco TDi.
    My mechanic has just fitted a new slave cylinder to it and its still in the floor.
    Could it be the clutch that has gone?
    I'm the second owner since the clutch was replaced and the previous owner has been to NT,towing a 21' Van with tinny on the roof before he sold it to me.

    Cheers

    discogazza
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    I don't have any real useful information, but seeing as no 200Tdi gurus are chiming in (assuming this is a 200Tdi/LT77 ?) ....

    300Tdi/R380s have a habit of punching the pivot rod/ball/thing through the clutch release lever. I don't know if the 200Tdi/LT77 combo has the same set up. Usually this results in the clutch remaining engaged and the pedal going solid, but it might be worth taking the slave cylinder off again and having a peak inside the bellhousing to see if the lever is still in place and intact.

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    About the same as i was going to say.....

    Andrew

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    I have the car back now.
    The slave cylinder was buggered,so thats one problem gone.
    The take-up point is still near the floor - the mechanic made sure everything lined up in the bellhousing.
    Will drive it for a few days and see how it goes.Maybe the clutch is stuffed-but I read somewhere on AULRO,that when the clutch is kappoot,the take-up point is near the top,not the bottom.

    Question:
    If I get the clutch done,do I get the pressure plate done as well?
    Is there anything else I should get changed if I get the clutch done?

    Cheers

    disco gazza
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    Do yourself a favour and replace the flexible hose that runs from the metal hydraulic line to the slave cylinder. This cheap part caused my Cape York trip last year to be a very challenging experience. We changed the master and slave cylinders and the problem came back again. The flexible hose starts to expand and takes up all the pressure that would go to throwing the slave cyclinder.

    For the price of this part it is well worth doing.

    If you have a look at Qld trip reports and look at Bushie's report you can read aboput the whole grim details - all worked out in the end
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    Hi disco gazza,

    If you're going to all the hassle or expense of pulling the gearbox out, I'd suggest just putting a whole clutch kit in (friction plate, pressure plate, release bearing). I now (since my post on Thursday) believe that the 200Tdi clutch fork is the same arrangement as the 300Tdi so it might be worth considering replacing that too.

    Below is my collection of clutch forks . They were lasting me about 70000km, so after the second one went, I did my own little reinforcement job on a new one before installation. Underneath the welded on plate is a metal disc with a machined divot to support the pivot point. You can also just weld a big washer on.


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    Hi all,
    The take-up point is near the floor,about 1/2-3/4" when you first take off.
    But when changing with bit of speed up,its more like 1/2 way up,so I'll see how she goes for a week or so.
    Thanks for all the suggestions as well guys.

    Cheers
    disco gazza
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    Quote Originally Posted by disco gazza View Post
    Hi all,
    The take-up point is near the floor,about 1/2-3/4" when you first take off.
    But when changing with bit of speed up,its more like 1/2 way up,so I'll see how she goes for a week or so.
    Thanks for all the suggestions as well guys.

    Cheers
    disco gazza
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    If it changes like that, it is probably not the fork, but is hydraulics.
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    Short update, thought the problem had gone away after a couple of days.
    Ocassonily it would go to the floor,but most of the time it would be 1/2 way up.
    But now it has gone to the floor.

    Time to get a new hydraulic hose and see if that fixes the problem.

    Cheers
    disco gazza
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    95 disco tdi auto gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    Hi disco gazza,

    If you're going to all the hassle or expense of pulling the gearbox out, I'd suggest just putting a whole clutch kit in (friction plate, pressure plate, release bearing). I now (since my post on Thursday) believe that the 200Tdi clutch fork is the same arrangement as the 300Tdi so it might be worth considering replacing that too.

    Below is my collection of clutch forks . They were lasting me about 70000km, so after the second one went, I did my own little reinforcement job on a new one before installation. Underneath the welded on plate is a metal disc with a machined divot to support the pivot point. You can also just weld a big washer on.

    Why did they use pressed tin forks on diesels and cast ones on V8s?

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