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    Replacing TD5 Front Crankshaft Seal No Torque Wrench

    My Td5 has decided to leak and I'm fairly sure its the front crankshaft seal. The problem is I don't have a torque wrench big enough.
    Can I use a TTY dial get the required torque to the front damper bolt?
    I haven't searched google for TTY to Torque comparison figures to bolt size yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 999 View Post
    My Td5 has decided to leak and I'm fairly sure its the front crankshaft seal. The problem is I don't have a torque wrench big enough.
    Can I use a TTY dial get the required torque to the front damper bolt?
    I haven't searched google for TTY to Torque comparison figures to bolt size yet.
    If you TTY the crankshaft bolt it will break. Calibrate your right hoof on a bathroom scale, use a socket bar of known length, multiply lever length in metres by hoof load in kg by 9.8 and you will have newton metres. A spring scale works too to get kg of applied load. The 9.8 is the conversion factor of the force in N exerted by 1kg at sea level.

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    Thanks Bee Utey

    So your saying if I apply 100kg to the end of a 500mm bar the force applied at the socket will be 490 Nm. (100x0.5)x9.8=490

    Working backwards from the required 455Nm


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    Quote Originally Posted by 999 View Post
    Thanks Bee Utey

    So your saying if I apply 100kg to the end of a 500mm bar the force applied at the socket will be 490 Nm. (100x0.5)x9.8=490
    Yup. Works in foot-pounds too, don't need a conversion factor for that:1.65 feet x 220 pounds = 360lb.ft approx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    If you TTY the crankshaft bolt it will break. Calibrate your right hoof on a bathroom scale, use a socket bar of known length, multiply lever length in metres by hoof load in kg by 9.8 and you will have newton metres. A spring scale works too to get kg of applied load. The 9.8 is the conversion factor of the force in N exerted by 1kg at sea level.

    Criiikey, that's being resourceful. That's a useful bit of information that I'll have to bookmark and file away for future reference. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bell1975 View Post
    Criiikey, that's being resourceful. That's a useful bit of information that I'll have to bookmark and file away for future reference. Thanks.
    It's how I checked/calibrated my first $10 K-mart torque wrench as a student. Clamp the socket drive in a vice, hang a water container at 0.5m and add a carefully measured number of litres (kg) of water to the bucket.

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    What can I Say mmm. I tried 3 places this morning to get a new Seal and Bolt with no luck, which was a blessing in disguise.
    I decided to further inspect the front of the TD5. I cleaned the whole front with detergent started the her up with out the viscous fan fitted and bought the motor up to 80-85 deg according to the nanocom. Gave it a few good revs, then I noticed a fine mist. The mist was oil coming from the timing chain cover stud bolt hole that used to hold the egr gas cooler. I removed the cooler when I changed the head. I didn't even think the stud hole would be straight through. Doh. I fitted one of the spare bolts I had with some permatex #4 gasket maker and no more leaks.

    Now I have an electrical issue from cleaning the front of the engine damn it.

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    Yes common complaint when removing the EGR cooler! If that info was presented earlier it would've helped IE 'After removing the EGR cooler I now have an oil leak...' some of us here have experienced just such a problem..

    Good to hear it is all sorted now

    time for you to sit back and open a coldie by the sounds of it


    JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Yes common complaint when removing the EGR cooler! If that info was presented earlier it would've helped IE 'After removing the EGR cooler I now have an oil leak...' some of us here have experienced just such a problem..

    Good to hear it is all sorted now

    time for you to sit back and open a coldie by the sounds of it


    JC
    To right, I de-egr'd well over 6 mths ago just never removed the the cooler till recently.
    Nothing like a cold one after having a win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 999 View Post
    To right, I de-egr'd well over 6 mths ago just never removed the the cooler till recently.
    Nothing like a cold one after having a win.
    I even leave the coolers in there, saves mucking about with coolant hoses etc too.

    JC

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