Tried the snorkel in reverse trick, didn't work but I now have a sweet induction sound so am going to leave it that way.
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Ok, so I got hooked up to a nanocom yesterday, warm day and readings as follows, not my bag this, so not really sure what it all means (answers in blue) ?
(for all the presented figures +/- 5% is acceptable)
MAF(air flow) = 55-60 (54) at idle growing with revs up to 600 or above at 3000+rpm (315) ... to not exceed 680 then it cuts out
AAP(ambient pressure) = real ambient pressure on barometer in kPa,(100) around 100 must drop up to 2-3 units to 3000+rpm, more decreasing of that value related to the acceleration should indicate that the air beyond the filter is less than required.
AAT(ambient temp) -only Eu3/15-16P engines = real ambient temp on thermometer
MAP(manifold absoolute prssure) = with AAP at idle growing to 230 at full load (216 @ 3,300 rpm)... TURBO PRESSURE = 1.3 at max load (101 kpa at idle)
CYLINDER BALANCE = +/- 4 is good - all Ok
IAT(inlet air temp) = AAT + 10 to 30 depending on outside temp, engine coolant temp and boost(meaured with the car's coolant gauge at middle)...also it can be much higher if non-cooled EGR is still fitted
COOLANT TEMP = 70 - 115 (80) gauge stays at the midddle, the gauge will go to red zone only at 120 and the electric cooling(aircon) fan kicks in at 110 and stops at 105... normal operating condition around 90 (91.9 after run)
FUEL TEMP = around 10 less than coolant temp (84.9)
THROTTLE
ACCEL. WAY 1 - about 0.3 - 0.8V with the pedal released, about 4.7V with pedal to the maximum position
ACCEL. WAY 2 - about 4.7V with the pedal released, about 0.3V with pedal to the maximum position
ACCEL. WAY 3 ? this track must have values very near to the second track.(only 15P-16P engines)
ACCEL. SUPPLY ? this value must stay between 4.9 a 5.1
So I am thinking this went pretty well (?), interesting that my MAF only read 315, does this mean it does need a clean ? Having lengthened the wastegate adjustor back (now 11 threads visible) I had re-attached the MAF sensor on Friday and hadn't made any noticeable change, so thinking was that it was working OK. Thinking I am not going to play with the turbo boost anymore and concentrate on saving for my re-map.
Welcome any feedback anyone has to these readings as I am totally out of my comfort zone here. Many thanks as always. Matt.
Hi, the MAF reading is very low ar high revs, at that difference i doubt that a clean could help you nless it's very dirty or there's a restiction in the intake though the MAP should be lower too, IMO a new one is required.
Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned
I dunno what that "ram effect" is in reality or how can it be scientifically linked to a car's intake. What i said is based on nanocom readings with snorkel intake directed both ways... the difference was between 5 - 30 units starting from around 90km/h the higher the speed was the greater the difference, made this test on 3 different td5's and one of them which was the most tuned(stage 2 with direct exhaust and boost box on std tyres) exceeded 680 at 135 km/h, swapped MAFs and did the same then topped up at 660 with snorkel turned back. I agree it's not physicaly noticeable while driving except that case when it cuts out, but the readings are quite relevant though I'll make some records next time when i'll have the chance to do that or do it yourself if you have nanocom and watch the difference
Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned
I met up with Wardy1 on Saturday who kindly linked up his Nanocom and we went for a drive, MAF read up to 600, but Wardy1 thought it was 'gutless' at the higher revs, and that must be a fueling problem, most likely MAF, we cleaned mine out, and then swapped his over and went for another drive. It was better, but did not really make the difference we were both expecting. Better than mine though.
Is there anything else I should be looking at, Wardy1 mentioned the fuel pump, but we didn't have the time to dig any deeper. Thanks Wardy1, he was a great help and more than happy to share.
Update, I cleaned the MAP sensor yesterday with contact cleaner and has made a significant improvement.
More grunt as it revs and the Disco is changing gear at different placed than usual - much happier. A fair bit of black liquid came off when I cleaned it and also the electrical connection had some oil in there. For a 5 minute job, I recommend everyone should do it !
So here we are quite a few months on and still playing around and cannot get the car 'right'. I replaced the MAF with a second hand one which I am told had been tested and was working, it made a difference, but that was about a year ago, the fuel pump was changed shortly before I got it, I have changed the fuel filter as well as the boost control valve.
I turned the boost up recently and car going better, but when I go up hills, or put foot down, it has started down a kangaroo impersonation, it wants to go quicker, but something is holding it back.
Boost is at 21 psi (stage 2 re-map) from TD5 Alive when I turn it up. I have bought some contact cleaner so will again clean the MAF and MAP.
I did disconnect the MAF a couple of months back, and it did not go as well, so I ticked that off my list, but again thinking it might well be not working properly ?
What are my next options, I have been reading the excellent thread about bridging the MAF, is this something I could try to rule out the MAF ?
Or there anything else I might have missed ? The car never wants to get past 2,900 rpm and sits there. Frustrating....and any guidance would be very greatly received. Matt.
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