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    Dislocation or Retention?

    Cleaning my 90 the other day and discovered that one of my rear springs wasnt seated properly and was actually about half way out at the top and resting on the lip.

    This must have happened a couple of days earlier when I was playing in the mud without me noticing and I had been driving around with it like that since!

    Two options to stop this happening again, either dislocation cones to let the spring dislocate and guide it back into place, OR retaining plates to stop the spring dislocating all together.

    Any thoughts on which is better? The retaining plates have the advantage that they are very simple and I can make them myself but other than that I dont know which is the prefered option.

    Anyone have any experience of either of these methods?

    cheers,

    Dave

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    It sounds as if your shocks aren't to long (if they were the coils would have unseated completely) so retaining would be best for you I think. Retaining the top of the coil is a pain though, I have had hose clamps snap.

    I run cones on my vehicle. When making retaining plates they need to be thick as I have bent and snapped thin ones, 4mm should be good.

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    From the looks of it it did come copletely unseated at the top and then reseated half in/half out of 'dish' it should be sat it.
    I think i will make up the retention plates until I figure out what the suspension set up is already and what i want to do. (springs are blue with about 3" of lift), Not sure what the shocks are but at some point in its history it looks as though it has had two shocks on each side on the rear, not sure why this would be...

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    fencing wire to tie the top of the spring in works just as well also, my disco has had its springs tied in this way for 3 years now

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    Definatley Dislocation! Sounds like you have a good suspension set up... no point ( I think) in restricting it! You can buy terrafirma drop out cones ones off ebay for about $110 + postage, very easy to fit. then retain spring at the bottom so it doesn't go flying!
    Land Rover Rear spring dislocation cones- Terrafirma | eBay
    Cheers.

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    lol thats a bit like asking, Disco, Defer or Rangie !
    Good luck with it mate

    FWIW I would go dislocation.

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    retaining is cheaper but you get a nasty bang/clang when it meets the top.

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    If your vehicle isn't fitted with a rear difflock, go dislocation.That's the reason LandRover didn't retain the tops of the springs in the first instance. But they were too cheap to fit an effective relocation device.
    Bill.

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    to retain or not to retain.

    This has been spoken about before on here and some will say that retained actually makes the car more balanced and make the coils work harder ie, when the rear is compressed the opposite front is compressed harder than it would be if the rear was able to dislocate.

    I have not tested this but I think it has merit, as mentioned in my previous post I had cones so mine dislocated and it worked very well, they are noisy though. I now have ultra flexi coils and +5 terrafirma shocks. As the wire diameter is thinned in the ends my coils open up very easy so are retained with no reduction of travel ( I have tested them). I had them made through Suspension Stuff and bought my shocks and mounts of Britsh Off Road.

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    If the front end is pretty standard I'd retain the rear springs, just to keep the articulation balanced.

    I've tried a dislocated rear and at the time had holey bushes and 10" stroke dampers in the front and I reckon it feels better with the rear springs now retained

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