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Thread: mitsubishi 4m41t into 98 v8 disco

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    The 4M40 is an engine I wouldn't put in anything, the one I drove in a challenger drank a lot more than my 4BD1T rangie. It was using about 12 litres/100km. On the same trip we monitored it on my rangie would use 10 litres/100km. On the mitsubishis side, it was auto and my rangie manual.
    Indirect injection is the main problem with them.

    The 4M41 I believe is electronic control, this side of the swap alone could cost you big dollars and make or break the reliability.

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    what about a mazda 3.5 sl from the mazda t3500 trucks, M&D Engineering do a kit for this to bolt to the ZF, Turbo glide do a turbo manifold. Not quite a 4bd1t but not to far from it.

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    What aboit the isoozoo 2.8 4BJ ? i think it is, conversion kits available and i would imagine would sip like a tdi with just a little bit more oomph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    what about a mazda 3.5 sl from the mazda t3500 trucks, M&D Engineering do a kit for this to bolt to the ZF, Turbo glide do a turbo manifold. Not quite a 4bd1t but not to far from it.
    It'll likely (like the 4BD1T) be too tough on the ZF. The reality is any diesel with decent torque is going to be beyond the stock gearbox. Though fitting the heaviest flywheel you can will help smooth out the destructive torque pulses.

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    from the trucks i've driven, its much smoother. This is quite a common conversion in th UK

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    isuzurover - my brain seems to be happy to pay up front for something and then have smaller outlays down the track. so if you have to put an extra few grand into getting it done and it means everytime you fill her up the fuel bill doesn't grind - i like it.
    If you pay a big amount up front and save a little in 2 or 3 or 5 years time you have to discount the money you may spend in the future at least by the discount rate or the rate of interest you could earn on your outlay now compared to 3 years time.

    So say the interest rate you can earn is 5% then the savings in 3 years must be about 18% to be sensible. So will the engine be 18% more economical? I think not.
    That is why it is usually not financially sensible to reengine cars.

    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    That is why it is usually not financially sensible to reengine cars.

    Regards Philip A
    It's not financially sensible to drive a landrover either. But here we all are.

    Build the vehicle that's going to make you happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
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    Build the vehicle that's going to make you happy.
    That is the correct answer right there. I keep my RRC because I like it and it makes me happy. I have the opportunity to buy a good LandCruiser 100 Series turbo diesel, but I don't think I will because I would have to get rid of my Rangie to justify it... and I don't want to do that.

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    I agree totally, but keep the 98Disco as it is and just grimace as the fuel is paid for.
    I can recall a heap of postings about Oh 6-7 years ago now debating diesel vs petrol, where people predicted that fuel would be $2 by now and that they should have diesel.
    What happened? Fuel has been cheaper ever since and diesel is now up to 20c per litre more expensive than petrol.
    IMHO it is impossible to predict fuel prices but that is what this post is about , or certainly fuel economy anyway.

    My RRC is uneconomical, but I am very sure that I am much better off without reengining both financially and enjoyment wise.

    My advice is to sell his V8 and buy a 300tdi and maybe modify that a bit if he wants a diesel unless the V8 is stuffed and he has to replace engines .
    Regards Philip A

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    Just another perspective.

    If my rangie still had the original V8 engine, it would have been scrapped long ago. Having a solid, economical and seriously torquey engine has made it worth spending the $$ several times to keep it rolling.

    Where can you buy a solid beam axle 4wd with a torquey diesel and ride comfort? Nowhere I know of, the current defender is the only thing close and it's now got a 2.2 diesel inside. The 70 series landcruiser have a 4.4 V8 (two car engines glued together) but still run leaf springs and drum brakes.

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