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    Series Vs 110/Defender

    Hey all,

    what are the differences between the say Series IIa/3 to a 110/Defender with regards to the rear tub? Im talking 109/110 Lwb hard top (2 door models) Is the wheel arch in a different spot? Is the construction any differnt? Is one made from thicker material?

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    There's a big difference with the size and shape of the wheel arch, since on the 110 it's meant to have those plastic flares. There's some talk as well about how in about the early 90s they started using thinner Birmabright.
    At any given point in time, somewhere in the world someone is working on a Land-Rover.

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    wheel arches should not be a problem to much. If this plan comes to fruition I will be making my own custom flares/arches from aluminium

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    Defender door skins and front guards are thinner (or softer). Not sure about rear tubs.

    As mentioned, the wheel arch hole is smaller on a series. A skilled panel beater can turn a series guard opening into a 110 guard opening.

    There are some other minor differences depending on the year and type of rear door/tailgate fitted.

    But in short - they are essentially interchangeable.

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    does anyone know if the center of the wheel arch is the same distance from front or back between a series and a coils sprung. Even though there is only 1 inch WB difference, I thought I had read something about the front axle on a series being further forward???

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    does anyone know if the center of the wheel arch is the same distance from front or back between a series and a coils sprung. Even though there is only 1 inch WB difference, I thought I had read something about the front axle on a series being further forward???
    Serg - it is largely irrelevant if you are fitting 110 flares. The 110 opening is wide enough to account for a couple of " either way. Even moreso if you fit front flares which are wider still IRC.

    I can't recall where the 1" difference is - maybe it is in the front.

    Series openings appear too far back anyway:

    Note how the centre of the hub is forward of the wheelarch centre at ride height. The wheel moves back as the suspension compresses though.

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    thanks Ben, If the 109's front axle is 1 inch further forward, it would have to mean that the rear axle was 2 inches futher forward......but that is ifs and maybes.

    My concept is to make a custom hard top 110. WB and axles stay where they are. Cut rear overhang some what so it matches the front at least. Move front of tub rearward to allow for longer doors. Custom build roof. Tub side tops would just be modded hardtop sides.

    This is all just in my head atm, I have no experience with LWB body varriants etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    thanks Ben, If the 109's front axle is 1 inch further forward, it would have to mean that the rear axle was 2 inches futher forward......but that is ifs and maybes.

    ???

    No - either a 110 has the rear axle 1" further back than a 109 or the front axle 1" further forward.

    Since I have one of each I can always measure hub cente to firewall distances on both this evening if it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    A skilled panel beater can turn a series guard opening into a 110 guard opening.
    Don't know about that. I would not call myself a panel beater of any description, butcher would be more apt.

    Heres the result of a pair of tinsnips & a pop riveter,

    metalwork is all 1966 Series 2A with a glass bonnet & apron

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    I really like the look of your rig Goingbush. Nice classic lines!

    As im 6.2, I think the defender wind screen will be better suited for me. btw the starting vehicle is a 110 cab chassis.

    Doors, the easy way to to make series type with sliding windows. But it would be nice to have wind ups. I have seen some home built wind ups with removable tops......this needs more investigation.

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