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    RRC longer front/rear shocks, what size to get?

    I have an 81' 2 door.
    the front articulation, (drop) I think could be improved, the "up" is fine, in fact I would not want the up travel any greater as the tyres would amost certainly rub.
    All standard running gear except for the tyre/rim size and very minor wheel arch cut.

    I don't wan't to go the whole hog, double-cardan shafts, rose joint arms and all that stuff.

    So the question is, how much longer shock can I get away with before the OEM gear gets close to binding?

    I have had a set of 2" lift springs sitting around for ages and thought might replace the shocks at the same time. I know I will have to get extended brake hoses, maybe some sort of dislocation cone.

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    Hey Steve,

    Probably not the definitive answer but here are my plans;

    I've got +2" springs and +2" shocks (Koni).

    To get the full droop travel from these I understand I need cranked radius and trailing arms and drop shock mounts. About $1200 from coffs on eBay.

    Only after doing that are you likely to need dislocation cones and spring retainers.

    Afaik the reason for this is that with +2" springs and +2" shocks with standard mounting points your shocks will be +2" extended off their neutral position therefore -2" shock mounts put them back to neutral and allow 2" more drop.

    Edit: also a good idea to put extended bump stops in to ensure you don't over compress the shocks.

    You might not achieve this without the cranked arms as the bushes will bind.

    Your props shouldn't limit this extra droop travel but you can go wide angle or use a double carden front off a D2 but need to swap the drive flanges as well.

    I'd be interested to see if just using the drop shock mounts (without the cranked arms) realizes a bit more droop travel.



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    Neil

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    Just read the OP again. You will get an improvement from the longer springs and longer shocks.

    Also thinking again I don't actually know how much longer my koni's are.

    I might get a set of front and rear drop shock mounts as stage 1 to see if there is an improvement. The expensive cranked arms can wait.

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    I am running koni raids for a landcruiser 80. I have extended front bump-stops and 180lb/in coils. The lengths work out perfectly for maximum extension and compression with nothing coming loose or binding. I had longer brake hoses made at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TELF RRC View Post
    Just read the OP again. You will get an improvement from the longer springs and longer shocks.

    Also thinking again I don't actually know how much longer my koni's are.

    I might get a set of front and rear drop shock mounts as stage 1 to see if there is an improvement. The expensive cranked arms can wait.
    Im just trying to get my head around the physics of it all
    the way im thinking is that if you put 2"+ shocks and springs, then essentially you will get the same drop, its just been moved lower in relation to the body of the vehicle?
    if you got 2"+shocks n springs, then got lowered mounts you would get more drop but less up travel than standard.
    so maybe it would need to be 4"+shocks 2" springs, then HIGER mounts, wouldn't this then return the neautral to the same position but give a further 2" of drop?
    Not taking in to account the posibility of binding.

    I wonder if it would be as easy as unbolt one end of the shocker then jack the body up until the wheel lifts and measue the extra length needed?
    just thinking outloud.
    I happen the have a set of cranked trailing arms sitting around too, radius arms are out of my budget. I believe its good practice? to die-grind a radius/arch out of the top of the rear diff housing-training arm mount, assists in preventing binding.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    I am running koni raids for a landcruiser 80. I have extended front bump-stops and 180lb/in coils. The lengths work out perfectly for maximum extension and compression with nothing coming loose or binding. I had longer brake hoses made at the same time.
    so cruiser 80 series shocks are longer than RR?
    do you have a spring lift?
    what size bump stop did you get?
    how much longer brake hoses?
    questions, questions................
    Thanks
    Last edited by HangOver; 1st April 2012 at 10:56 PM. Reason: **That was trailing not TRAINING arms :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HangOver View Post
    so cruiser 80 series shocks are longer than RR?
    do you have a spring lift?
    what size bump stop did you get?
    how much longer brake hoses?
    questions, questions................
    Thanks
    My 80 series shocks are koni 30-1426.
    They have ~220mm of stroke which is now all usable where the original setup had shorter stroke and several inches of stroke which couldn't be used because the turrets are longer than needed.
    I am running maybe 1 inch higher than original ride height. The extended bump stops are necessary to keep my Isuzu engine sump and my front diff head from fighting. I have no body lift and think I went about 2-3 inches longer with the brake hoses.

    The bump stops I used were the older versions of these: ANR41889PE | Extended bump stop - polyurethane

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