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    sway bars and corrugations

    Seeking feedback from those that travel alot on corrugated roads. The prior owner removed the sway bars on my 110. So far it's served me well off-road however with a 35mm lift and softish springs it's a handful on twisting roads and round-abouts at speed must scare the be-jesus out of the car next to me. I can live with that behaviour around town for the relative short trips i take. However i'm planning a trip to Cape York this time next year and wonder whether no sway bars on corrugated roads is a death wish or I'll not notice their absence.

    Any wise words from those that have removed sway bars and driven corrugated roads. Just planning on what modifications that need to be done in preparation.

    cheers MLD

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    Ya canna break the laws of physics!

    Re-install the bars and add disconnects for off road!

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    No swaybars on the road is dangerous, they are there for a reason. As you mentioned the car is almost scary on windy roads. What would happen in an emergency?

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    Mines a little different as i have airbags on all 4 corners but I've been experimenting with my sway bars on the 130 too, currently running front sway bar only, tried with none, it did improve the ride of bumps at speed on road and felt better on corrugations, but change wasnt that significant, unlike the change to how it cornered and the body roll at speed - it was like driving a boat on the road. So the front went back on with spacers to get more clearance for the front tailshaft.

    Flex wise, i honestly didnt think it made any difference with the front as the main limit in the front is the radius arms fighting each other at flex. The rear however held up the travel by a long way and inverted the sway bar, it actually damaged the rear sway bar a while back and it has been off ever since - i cant say i noticed any difference at all when i removed it.

    Eventually i want to try something like the X-deflex on the rear and try that with no front sway bar and see if it makes any difference, but due to my long range fuel tank i dont know if i can use the x-deflex sway bar.

    All in all, if your travel isnt inverting sway bars i would keep them on for sure if you have soft springs, with firmer springs its not as much of an issue which is what i have set up on my 110 county. The X-delfex kit might be an option for you, its unlockabled, uses a longside rear axle and lockable hub for locking, has redesigned arms to allow longer travel etc but i guess it comes down to how your suspension is setup currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G Griggs View Post
    No swaybars on the road is dangerous, they are there for a reason. As you mentioned the car is almost scary on windy roads. What would happen in an emergency?
    really... mine didnt have them when it left the factory...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimpson7 View Post
    really... mine didnt have them when it left the factory...
    I was going to point that out too... you beat me to it.

    My 110 only had a rear sway bar no front as far as i know.

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    The X-engineering X-deflex caught my eye and prompted the enquiry. After scanning the various forums and manufacturer pages I haven't seen a commercially made disconnect version for the front diff (leaving aside the backyard fix some have made up). I assume CAL415's comments about the limitation coming from the radius arms makes a disconnect superfluous except in highly modified trucks.

    Is there a front disconnect product anyone knows of? Or a modification to the front that retains the benefit of the front sway bar but doesn't act too much of a limitation for articulation?

    CAL415 the X-eng website has a version compatible with long range tanks.
    X-eng High Performance Off-Road Engineering

    cheers MLD

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    You can still spec new Defender commercials without them.

    I have done a fair bit of outback travel in mine with no anti-roll bars and its fine.

    Completely predictable imo, but as it didnt have them at any stage I cant compare like for like.

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    gday, ive just spent the last three weeks doing the cape with no sway bars front or rear which is standard on the military defender. Front handled great at 25psi, back could become a handful if hitting unexpected corry over 70-80km.

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    I've also just got back from 3 weeks on the Cape. No dramas on my County with rear sway bar removed.
    I'd prefer to have kept it on, but the long range tank I've got extends under the chassis rail so had to remove it. On the road it rolls like a boat, but managed to reduce that somewhat with coil-rite helper bags in the rear at 20psi.

    Steve

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