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    Battery Level

    I have a 105ah Allrounder battery as my ancillary battery. The alternator in my 101 is a 65amp Bosch and is solely dedicated to charging this battery and it charges at between 13.9 and 14.1 volts. As the 101 does not get used a lot I charge this battery with my Suoercrap Smart charger every two weeks. I set it to manual and charge it for one hour at 12amps and then switch it to auto to let it do its own thing - stays on charge for 24 hours and goes to float after about 3 hours.

    However after being taken off the charger or switching off the engine the battery settles on only 12.4 volts after a couple of hours and if not used for a week drops to 11.9v.

    Is there a way firstly of calculating what % capacity the battery is retaining and secondly is it worth persisting with the battery or ditching it - it will still run my fridge OK over 24 hours.

    Thanks

    Garry
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    Hi Garry and the Allrounder is a Calcium/Calcium ( Ca/Ca ) battery and as such, your 41.1v will charge the battery but Ca/Ca batteries need a periodical boost or equalisation charge.

    If your battery charger does not have that cycle or stage, then your battery will continually loose capacity.

    If you have an 80w solar panel, connect it directly to the battery ( no reg ) and leave it that way for a week or so.

    If the battery is stuffed then you can’t make it worse but if it is recoverable, this will bring it back to a much higher capacity and it will also hold it’s charge longer.

    Again, you can only try.

    BTW, if you do use the 80w solar panel, don’t be too surprised if you hear the battery bubbling. This is what you want to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    Hi Garry and the Allrounder is a Calcium/Calcium ( Ca/Ca ) battery and as such, your 41.1v will charge the battery but Ca/Ca batteries need a periodical boost or equalisation charge.
    Thanks - the charger is supposedly automatically detects and adjusts for different types of batteries including calcium (supposedly). The point you make about needing a periodically boost is why the battery goes on the charger every couple of weeks and on a manual setting of its max 12amps full charge at the start.

    My solar panels are 120w - is that an issue??

    Garry
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    Hi Garry and Ca/Ca batteries, particularly deep cycle type, but cranking batteries also need a high voltage charge cycle and while your panel is a bit big, you can still try it and see if the battery comes back.

    Suggested method, with the battery fully charge by your battery charge, connect your solar panel to your battery on a day you can both track the panel to get maximum rays and keep an eye on the battery voltage.

    If the voltage in the battery looks like going over 18v, remove the panel for a while, say an hour and then reconnect.

    Thats not a typo, I have a stuffed cranking battery and I managed to get some capacity back into it ( for how long? ) and it is now working fine, plus I now have the DT90 isolator and optima as added power, but I regularly leave the panel on all day.

    In my case, the panel is an 80 watter and the maximum the cranking battery gets to is about 17.7v. The Optima never gets above 14.9v because the DT90 has over voltage protection.

    Again, you will hear your battery bubbling but this is what you need it to get.

    BTW, I don’t trust my battery but it is working, for now, and has been for nearly 6 months.

    My cranking battery is still seriously down in total capacity but at present it is working fine, even on the coldest mornings, and note, I do not disconnect anything, I just connect the panel straight to the cranking battery, via a set of 30 amp Anderson Power Poles, permanently wired to the cranking battery.

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    Thanks - subject to good weather I will try it this weekend. This is my Aux battery which is just over two years old and ran down through the vehicle being parked too long without use or charging last winter - repeated -5 mornings do not do a lot of good to batteries if they have not been charged.

    Yet my two starter batteries (24v system) which are cheap 550cca standard lead acid cranking batteries and are now 4 1/2 years old had no issues - they seem to be just going on and on and little additional charging is required.

    Thanks for your help

    Garry
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    1977 FC 101
    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
    1973 Haflinger AP700
    1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

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