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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopsi View Post
    Hi Craig,

    Great workspace you have there. Mind me asking what was the reason for the engine being out and stripped?

    Cheers.
    More preventative maintenance than anything. I knew it probably had plastic dowels and having done 186,000kms was probably becoming a risk, as you can see in the pic they were a bit off centre. Had also recently lost some coolant and could not determine where, so thought may have been some movement of the head. Does not look like it was though. Anyway should be good for a bit more. Also gave me opportunity to check the condition of everything, fix sump oil leak and some others. Change out injector seals and o rings, new glow plugs, adjust rockers. Plus clutch was getting a bit noisy, mainly bearing I think as clutch did not look too bad. Also time to fix all leaks on gearbox and transfer case and maybe put on a bigger transfer case sump and if time maybe even a decent gearbox oil cooler. Will also be replacing gearbox bearings that are easy to get too and usually fail, gearbox filter and pump. Clutch slave cylinder as well.
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    Thanks for the info Craig, I was in the same frame of mind when we were losing a bit of coolant via the expansion tank purge. Replaced the expansion tank cap with a new genuine item and the coolant seems to be holding ok.

    Ours has travelled 218K so I'm still keen on doing at least the plastic dowel swap over, head gasket kit, injector ring+seals etc..

    She's working great at the moment so I'm holding it off. I was hoping to order a Nanocom and monitor alarm (Engine Watchdog) for now. We'll see how we go but I'm thinking about doing the head gasket as preventative maintenance sometime in the next 30K - 50K.

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    Tony

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    Wouldn't you know it all was just going too well.
    Just went to fit the exhaust manifold and one of the exhaust studs fell out broken. Of course is about 1/2cm inside the thread, so looks like looking for some left thread drill bits and a set of easy outs. Bright side is I would rather have it found now while the engine is out and much easier to access.
    Is there anything I need to know, not sure about going to 10mm studs as I would then require to tap the head. If I go down this path how hard is it to do and what do I need? Apart from that is there any standard stud replacement or do I have to buy Land Rover specific?
    Another benefit of doing this routine maintenance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    Wouldn't you know it all was just going too well.
    Just went to fit the exhaust manifold and one of the exhaust studs fell out broken. Of course is about 1/2cm inside the thread, so looks like looking for some left thread drill bits and a set of easy outs. Bright side is I would rather have it found now while the engine is out and much easier to access.
    Is there anything I need to know, not sure about going to 10mm studs as I would then require to tap the head. If I go down this path how hard is it to do and what do I need? Apart from that is there any standard stud replacement or do I have to buy Land Rover specific?
    Another benefit of doing this routine maintenance.
    Cheers
    Craig
    Interesting comments Craig,
    A reputable LR mechanic up here is adamant that the broken exhaust studs on some td5's and the head movement issue are related.
    Seems to make sense.
    I wonder how many engines with steel dowels (compared to plastic) have had exhaust stud issues.
    May be an interesting statistic.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by harro View Post
    Interesting comments Craig,
    A reputable LR mechanic up here is adamant that the broken exhaust studs on some td5's and the head movement issue are related.
    Seems to make sense.
    I wonder how many engines with steel dowels (compared to plastic) have had exhaust stud issues.
    May be an interesting statistic.

    Cheers,
    Paul.
    Almost ALL Td5s will do the manifold at some stage...

    Nothing to do with head movement on block.

    Its to do with expansion and contraction of cast vs alloy - removing the webbing between the ports on the manifold fixes it

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    Have you checked the oil pump bolt?
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    Craig
    As Toombie says,cut all the webbing out,its easy with one of those super thin grinder discs.
    Keep the exsisting studs but drill the manifold holes to the next size to allow a bit of expansion/contraction without pinching on the studs.
    Did mine and no issues since.
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    Are high tensile 8mm studs or even 10mm studs available off the shelf? If so who near Mandurah would stock them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dswatts View Post
    Have you checked the oil pump bolt?
    Yeah, checked it a few years back, but as I will be replacing the sump gasket next week will check it again.
    Cheers
    Craig
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    Craig
    As Toombie says,cut all the webbing out,its easy with one of those super thin grinder discs.
    Keep the exsisting studs but drill the manifold holes to the next size to allow a bit of expansion/contraction without pinching on the studs.
    Did mine and no issues since.
    Andrew
    Webbing done when in Esperance. Deck does seem square, but will check properly next week.
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