Superior Engineering Superflex arms for Rovers.

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Originally Posted by uninformed

I thought it would have come down to the Nissan bushes used. The arms main body is 32mm wide, os they will fit the 40mm early mount. The bush part of the arm would be determind by the Nissan bush....

So how wide is the Nissan Bush?

Pin end: If I have it correct, it seems the only difference between LR early and late arms is the pin dia, NOT the chassis mount. So, that should mean the arms bolt in there also.

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Serg.
You don't quite have the correct measurements;)
The main body of the arm is 32mm as you describe,but where the bushes for the diff end mount,that mounting point is close to 50mm,so doesn't fit the early model diff housings.This increase in diameter is due to the way that the area for the bushes is increased for added support and strength.I reiterate that these arms are not your average lightweight mass produced replacement arms sold by other companies.The chassis end mounts will fit no problems.

I have been in discussion with Greg regarding the earlier narrow bushed arms as fitted to early Rangies and 110's,and threw some figures around,but this will require a complete new arm and bush setup,and not sure how much of a viable proposition this will be.I also have a vested interest in this ,as my 130 has early diff housings and narrow arms,and is just busting for a set to suit.

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Originally Posted by clive22

Hi



If these fit my earlier 85 County 110 I'll get a set. That front end flex pictured is impressive.

I have heard that the 110's have a different width bushes at the diff end and was wondering if anyone knows if these will still fit. The part nos are different when you order bushes.

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Clive
Re my earlier post,at the moment the arms that are currently made won't fit to your early narrow bush diff housing.If you stay in tune with this thread,I am sure you will hear if there is any change to the situation.

And yes the flex is impressive in the flesh as well:D:cool:

Thanks all -

I'll measure mine up when I get home.

In theory for the three normal mounts if the earlier one are wider than I should be able to space out the difference -

Does anyone know the difference in dimensions (internal) between the older wider and newer brackets?

Does anyone have a pic of the arms installed? In particular how the bolt on flex plate fixes to the diff bracket.

Thanks

Clive

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Originally Posted by clive22

Thanks all -

I'll measure mine up when I get home.

In theory for the three normal mounts if the earlier one are wider than I should be able to space out the difference -

Does anyone know the difference in dimensions (internal) between the older wider and newer brackets?

Does anyone have a pic of the arms installed? In particular how the bolt on flex plate fixes to the diff bracket.

Thanks

Clive

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Clive,

The earlier bushes/mounts are narrower, so these arms won't fit, as the tube used for the 50mm wide bushes, irrelevant of the bush itself, is too wide for your mounts.

As Wayne said, the earlier Rovers will need different arms & bushes.

Regards
Grant

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Originally Posted by LowRanger

Serg.
You don't quite have the correct measurements;)
The main body of the arm is 32mm as you describe,but where the bushes for the diff end mount,that mounting point is close to 50mm,so doesn't fit the early model diff housings.This increase in diameter is due to the way that the area for the bushes is increased for added support and strength.I reiterate that these arms are not your average lightweight mass produced replacement arms sold by other companies.The chassis end mounts will fit no problems.

I have been in discussion with Greg regarding the earlier narrow bushed arms as fitted to early Rangies and 110's,and threw some figures around,but this will require a complete new arm and bush setup,and not sure how much of a viable proposition this will be.I also have a vested interest in this ,as my 130 has early diff housings and narrow arms,and is just busting for a set to suit.

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Yes Wayne, I had my LR measurements wrong. The later type being approx 50mm wide at the axle mount.

But I still dont see how that changes what I said. The main body of the arm does not change thickness (AFAIK), so it comes down to the metal bush welded to the arm and the Nissan bush itself.

I can not see how making the metal bush wider than the Nissan bush is of any advantage, so agian that brings us back to the Nissan bush.

How wide is a Nissan bush? WIll it fit in between the early type axle mount?

Again, I have never questioned the strength of these arms.

Thanks all

OK Then

Responses came in whilst I wrote. Anyways thanks for the answer.

Looks like I'll have to wait and see what happens.

Clive

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Originally Posted by Presto

Clive,

The earlier bushes/mounts are narrower, so these arms won't fit, as the tube used for the 50mm wide bushes, irrelevant of the bush itself, is too wide for your mounts.

As Wayne said, the earlier Rovers will need different arms & bushes.

Regards
Grant

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Are you saying the metal bush welded in the arm is wider than the Nissan bush?

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Originally Posted by uninformed

Are you saying the metal bush welded in the arm is wider than the Nissan bush?

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No, I'm saying the tube welded to arm (lets call it a 'bush housing'), is wider than the earlier arm mounts, so they simply won't fit no matter which bush you put in them.

Does anyone know the width of the earlier bushes to be absolutely sure?
The tube measures 40.6mm.

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Originally Posted by Presto

No, I'm saying the tube welded to arm (lets call it a 'bush housing'), is wider than the earlier arm mounts, so they simply won't fit no matter which bush you put in them.

Does anyone know the width of the earlier bushes to be absolutely sure?
The tube measures 40.6mm.

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Ok, ill try and join the dots since it seems to be missed :D

If the Nissan bush would fit the early LR axle mount, then all Superior Engineering have to do, is make a different weld in metal bush for the early vehicles.

I would have thought that for correct bush installation, the crush tube in the Nissan bush be the part that is pulled up hard in the axle mount. NOT the arm itself. The arm is not going to be square to the housing in cross articulaton so needs some room "twist"

So, again, is the Nissan bush the same, narrower or wider than the arm itself? If they are not narrow enough to fit a early axle mount, then not only a new metal weld in bush would have to be made, but a whole new suspension bush would have to be sourced or made....

The main arm is 32mm wide
The Bush Housing Tube is 40.6mm wide
The Bush is 50mm wide

Clear as mud? :)