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    300TDi radiator

    i was looking at getting my radiator rodded out in the not to distant future as it is getting inefficient, i have a price from the local dude for $195 with me taking it out and refitting, now i am thinking, for not much more money it might be worth fitting a new one.
    do the wise sages on the forum have any advice on this please

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    I'm going to try and get a price on tuesday for a recore on my 300 tdi rad.
    I'd guess $450 for a recore.
    will post back when I get a quote.
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    go for new

    I think without a doubt replace it, maybe double the price but not likely to come back and bite you. after all if that is the original radiator then at least 15 yrs old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jboot51 View Post
    I'm going to try and get a price on tuesday for a recore on my 300 tdi rad.
    I'd guess $450 for a recore.
    will post back when I get a quote.
    $500 for a Redback HD (thicker) recore and the bleed hole in the divider plate soldered/blocked.

    Quoted two weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    $500 for a Redback HD (thicker) recore and the bleed hole in the divider plate soldered/blocked.

    Quoted two weeks ago.
    I've asked this before, but have forgotten the answer, what is the purpose of blocking/soldering the bleed hole in the divider plate?
    A few years back when I had my rad. recored (H/D thicker core) I asked my local Rad. rebuilder to block the hole as described above, I thought he was going to bite my head off. He said if I wanted that done I should take it to someone who doesn't care about ****ing up the cooling system and promptly handed me back my old radiator, he wouldn't explain why but said he would not be party to **** workmanship. As I have known this bloke for many years and had done some tuning work for him I accepted his advice and I got the H/D recore for the cost Price of a standard core, any comments on this modification and why Land Rover put the hole there in the first place, Regards Frank.

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    Tank, Im pretty sure its there to help with the bleeding of air in the system when doing changes etc....problem is its so big that the coolant uses it as the path of least resistance (especially when the rad is less than perfect) and therefore doesnt pass through all the rad and get cooled properly.

    I could be wrong though

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    Tank, Im pretty sure its there to help with the bleeding of air in the system when doing changes etc....problem is its so big that the coolant uses it as the path of least resistance (especially when the rad is less than perfect) and therefore doesnt pass through all the rad and get cooled properly.

    I could be wrong though
    This, or at least that's my take too.

    I've asked a few people why so large and no one can answer why ?

    The bleed is for the same reasons we have bleeds from the top tank, (drivers side) and the t/stat housing.
    If any air does get into the circuit it will self bleed

    My bloke will replace the 12+mm hole with a 1/8" hole, should be more than adequate to do its job with a clean system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    This, or at least that's my take too.

    I've asked a few people why so large and no one can answer why ?

    The bleed is for the same reasons we have bleeds from the top tank, (drivers side) and the t/stat housing.
    If any air does get into the circuit it will self bleed

    My bloke will replace the 12+mm hole with a 1/8" hole, should be more than adequate to do its job with a clean system.
    Rick and uninformed, not having a shot at you, but as there is no specific reason for modifying the inside of the radiator then, is there a benefit to cooling. As my local radiator expert vehemently rubbished this modification and was willing to blow a $450 job to get his point across, then unless someone can come up with facts showing it to be beneficial then I will stick to stock, do you know whether the V8 radiator has the same hole, thanks, Regards Frank.

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    Frank, did he say why ?

    It's a common mod to block it off here and in SA (as in Seth Efrica), and everyone that's done it reckons the car doesn't get as hot as quickly when working hard after the mod.
    As I mentioned, my bloke says he uses a 1/8"-3mm hole and that's adequate IHO.

    For the life of me I can't work out why it's so large a hole, and water, like any fluid follows the path of least resistance, so how much coolant by-passes the core and just goes straight through the bleed hole ?

    The race cars i used to run used dual flow, cross flow radiators and as far as I'm aware didn't have an internal bleed in the divider plate at all, only an external bleed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Rick and uninformed, not having a shot at you, but as there is no specific reason for modifying the inside of the radiator then, is there a benefit to cooling. As my local radiator expert vehemently rubbished this modification and was willing to blow a $450 job to get his point across, then unless someone can come up with facts showing it to be beneficial then I will stick to stock, do you know whether the V8 radiator has the same hole, thanks, Regards Frank.
    Tank, AFAIK, the specific reason for modding it is to force the water/coolant to flow through the radiator as designed....think of path of least resistance, and that big hole.

    Water needs to flow through all of the radiator and at a set rate for it to cool, to fast and the heat will not get the chance to disapate out of it, AND worse if its only using 50% of the radiators area.

    This is what I have been told and have done on my truck. When I contacted A local radiator mob about a new core, they recommended RedBack and also recommened doing the internal work, with out me asking about it. They said it is common to do on these Landies.

    There are some things LR get right and do well.....cooling is not one of them.

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