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    POR 15 Paint

    Has anyone had issues using POR 15 Rust Preventative Paint.

    I have never used it before but seems to be good stuff. I painted in on some lightly rusted metal and it seemed to go on OK. Because it will be painted over, in accordance with the instructions when the POR tacked off I sprayed on the acrylic primer. That was last week and no issues until this morning when I noticed the POR has started to bubble under the primer - the primer is OK.

    So any one who has used POR 15 had similar issues with bubbling of the POR some days after application?

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    Garry, did you use Marine Clean to pre-treat before applying the primer. I've usually found that not doing this is the culprit.
    Also you can use the KBS range which is effectively the same polyurethane product but Australian. Apparently POR 15 was developed in part by an OZ engineer in the US who has subsequently returned home and started up his own formulation - urban myth or??
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    No Marine Clean used but the area painted where it bubbled was new fresh clean metal - the area that was rusty worked fine.

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    I use the chassis black[not uv tolerant] and it is great with out any problems, there aluminium silver heat paint is good to[on my 300tdi engine block so i can see oil leaks and on motorbike barrels] but i wouldnt reccomend there tank sealer.
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    The polyurethane paint cures by absorbing moisture from the atmosphere, any water will cause a very fast cure resulting in gassing and therefore bubbles. This I thought could also occur if the polyurethane was applied too thick as the outer of the paint would cure before the inner had finished releasing gas. Apparently some thinners can have moisture in them resulting in bubbles. KBS sell you their own thinners to avoid this problem.
    I know POR 15 tank sealer is sloshed around inside petrol tanks and therefore could potentially be quite a thick coat.

    When you say used according to instructions, do they recommend acrylic? I would have thought that acrylic would contain water and therefore would not be recommended for use together with polyurethane paints unless the previous coat was fully cured, not just tacked. I know that waiting for the polyurethane to tack off is the way to apply more coats but I thought that it would only be with other products without water in the formulation.

    I am by no means a paint expert so take it with a grain of salt, I have yet to apply the KBS that I purchased over a year ago and am only going by memory of the instructions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slug_burner View Post
    This I thought could also occur if the polyurethane was applied too thick as the outer of the paint would cure before the inner had finished releasing gas.
    This may have been the reason as it was on thick

    Quote Originally Posted by slug_burner View Post
    When you say used according to instructions, do they recommend acrylic? I would have thought that acrylic would contain water and therefore would not be recommended for use together with polyurethane paints unless the previous coat was fully cured, not just tacked. I know that waiting for the polyurethane to tack off is the way to apply more coats but I thought that it would only be with other products without water in the formulation.
    Instructions indicated all paint is OK to go over the top and that it should be painted just after it has tacked off and not dry. I would not have thought acrylic would have had water in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    This may have been the reason as it was on thick



    Instructions indicated all paint is OK to go over the top and that it should be painted just after it has tacked off and not dry. I would not have thought acrylic would have had water in it.

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    I must of been thinking of water wash up house paint as acrylic but don't know why. Off the top of the head thought without supporting research.

    Now I remember I did paint something in Dulon once and I think that was an acrylic that used thinners of some type to cut it down to spray and wash up.

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    I used the "tiecoat" (what amazing coverage!) over por15 then top coated

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    It would have been the solvent in the acrylic under coat reacting with the poly paint 2 different types of of paint . the drying times of both paints are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumper View Post
    It would have been the solvent in the acrylic under coat reacting with the poly paint 2 different types of of paint . the drying times of both paints are different.
    According to the POR instructions is not an issue.

    "After the last coat of POR 15 has been applied, wait approx 45 minutes to one hour until the POR 15 coat is tacky, then apply a light dusting of primer and let dry. The apply a full coat"

    This was what was done - the bubbles appeared a few days later. On reflection I think the issue was as Slug-Burner mentioned - the POR 15 coat was too thick.

    Cheers

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