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Thread: KONI shocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Do they really need bump stop extensions ?

    I'm running modified leafy Patrol rears and don't have a problem with them going metal to metal on full bump and IIRC they have 270mm or so of stroke.
    Could be 270, but I rough measured 250. Without the bump stop extensions it will bottom on big hits, I would rather protect the shock even though it will probably handle it. Not real happy with the compression damping, needs to be stiffer when loaded.

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    rick130 by time I buy the patrol shocks and get them revalved in Austalia wouldn't I be better of buying koni raids 90-5401 from the UK for 270-300 aus dollars per shock delivered? Or do you think the 30-1312sp1 for 130-140 aus dollars per shock delivered be any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushrover View Post
    Could be 270, but I rough measured 250. Without the bump stop extensions it will bottom on big hits, I would rather protect the shock even though it will probably handle it. Not real happy with the compression damping, needs to be stiffer when loaded.

    You don't want them going metal to metal at all, they won't handle it, and the repair $ are almost too high high to bother about fixing, you just buy a new one.

    What ends up happening is that the rebound adjuster hits the foot valve bending the adjuster ears, frigging the foot valve and often, if the hit's big enough, the bowed out adjuster ears bulge out the pressure tube.
    Sometimes you can get away with just inverting the pressure tube and replacing the foot valve and rebound adjuster, give everything a really good flush out, replace the piston band and shaft seal and re-fill with oil and away you go again, but if the pressure tube is totally fragged it's just not cost effective in parts and labour to fix.

    Re-valving is pretty straight forward for changes in bump, you can send them off to Proven Products and they'll replace the foot valve with another one.
    The foot valve can be revalved too, but I doubt they'd bother, much quicker/easier to swap it for a new one, the obvious choice being one that's close in spec to the one used for the rear of the 110.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEF95 View Post
    rick130 by time I buy the patrol shocks and get them revalved in Austalia wouldn't I be better of buying koni raids 90-5401 from the UK for 270-300 aus dollars per shock delivered? Or do you think the 30-1312sp1 for 130-140 aus dollars per shock delivered be any good?

    Depends on what you want.

    Those of us that want longer stroke dampers need to have them custom made, the 'longer' Koni's are just standard stroke with a longer body, ie. their open length is longer but so is their closed length, so you don't gain any extra stroke, the travel is limited by the shaft length.
    This is fine if you just have a 'lifted' vehicle, (most suspensions that are lifted really only have stock or even shorter stroke/articulation, particularly off the shelf stuff) that but if your actual suspension travel is greater than stock the damper will be restricting your wheel travel.
    EG. those Raids only have an 8" stroke, even though they are 'longer' than stock.

    This is why modified Patrol rears and TLC 80 Series fronts are used in Landies, we get more wheel travel with them.

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