First K&N filter clean, I wish I had millions of dollars

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Originally Posted by MR LR

Yes, we even tried chainsaw bar oil which cut the dust down even more, yes and it was actually oversized (being a 250 with twin carbs).

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Chainsaw bar oil? Was it foam or K&N? How did you apply chainsaw bar oil to a K&N?:eek: No wonder you had issues. I have only ever used the red K&N oil in the aerosol can.

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Originally Posted by MR LR

I also think it's quite foolish to discount Isuzurover's lab tests and real life experience, that bloke know his **** and I'd say he has done a lot more dirt driving than you, in your WRX and Landy... bro.

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I don't know how much dirt driving Isuzurover has done and I wont argue that I have done more than him or he has done more than me. I appreciate his test work but I can only speak of my own experience and it has been nothing but good.

I was a Telstra sub-contractor and did over 100,000km a year for over 9 years. I was a fibre optic cable tech. I pulled my old GPS out of the cupboard only a month or so ago and found it has 60,000km on it's odometer. I only used it for finding plough routes of cables that had been laid years before and the bush had regrown and I could no longer find where the cable went. I think that's a reasonable amount of bush driving and then there is all the dirt roads getting there (not included in the 60,000). Sure there was a bit of work around the cities but I specialized in the testing and fault finding of inter exchange cables. Faults are much harder to find in over 100km of bush than a couple of street blocks.

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Originally Posted by MR LR

Btw, I assume you have a Tdi, I did mine up at the age of 17 over a weekend, I honed it and replaced the rings as it had injested water (due to me having an 17 year old moment... although it made for a spectacular photo!), a full rebuild wouldn't take too much longer unless there were complications.

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You assume wrong, TD5. My Suzuki Swift cost me $2000. I'd never just hone and re-ring. I think that's what the guy who apparently rebuilt my postie bike did before I bought it. It's got to be a rebore, new pistons/rings, all bearings, balancing, decking, everything for any sort of rebuild. Anything less is just doing half of a job.

I wouldn't have yelled if you had properly read my first post. I thought you must be hard of hearing. As you said and I reiterated. The K&N v everything else has been done to death.

Happy Days

I'm just thinking about the chainsaw oil on the K&N filter. I'm imagining how much the oil itself blocked the filter and it possibly just washed the dirt through the filter.

The K&N stuff is more like a glue that doesn't dry than oil. You could spray it on a vertical wall and it wont run. It'll just still be there years latter, covered in dust. You have to use the K&N cleaner to wash it as well as nothing else soap based seems to move it. The K&N cleaner must have a solvent in it because it makes it hard to breath if you get a lunge full of the mist. I spray it on my hands to clean them afterwards because the normal shed hand cleaner I have that will clean grease and oil just fine, doesn't budge the K&N oil.

Happy Days.

As for rebuilding the TD5. My single cylinder Honda 110 postie cost me $400 in engineering and and parts alone. I had a good engine shop in Queanbeyan that looked after me but I'd hate to think what it would cost me for that type of work here in Darwin. There are likely to be more shops but they charge the rate that mines will pay.

I'd hardly take the head of a motor without porting and polishing and replacing valves. To me it's just doing the hand work that Land Rover didn't have it the budget of building the motor. I'm sure we all wish or motors were hand finished and assembled but we don't want to pay Ferrari prices for our 4x4s.

Happy Days.

Despite what every body says im a fan of the k&n and after a dusty trip it gets washed and reoiled, ive got a few mates using them to all long term with out dramas, this is my real world experience...

Umm errr yeah, I have had one in my Surf for 10 years, 200000km, a lot of that offroad, no dust in pipes after filter, been good for me, don't know about bench testing, but real life testing so far so good.

Cheers
Kev

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Like I said. I wish I had millions of dollars and I'd give these haters a K&N filter and if their motor died because if the filter. I'd buy them a new motor. Problem is their motors are probably already stuffed from having problems like I've had with paper filters.

It's nice to have a thread where you can post about your K&N success and not get shot down.


I might ask a mod to have the previous few posts removed. As they are not really relevant to the thread.


Happy days.

Lol.
That's not being precious, that's just Mr LR being friendly, although I'm sure he'd be happy to oblige you with an alternative response :p
You're a big boy, if everyone else can tolerate it, you can too ;)

I've read through Ben (Isuzurovers) thread and while I'm not science-y by any means I can understand it enough to get the point of it.
What you do with your car is your choice, it's not like someone's going to reach through the computer screen and smack you.
But don't right off the evidence against K&Ns simply because it's been done in a lab, I think you'll find Isuzurover gets amongst it with the best of them.

You can't just ask for disbelievers not to post on a public forum now can you?

I'm thrilled you have had such a great run with yours, but there are many here that have seen both bench testing and real world testing of paper v K&N and the results don't back up your claims.

It's like other subjects on here - you won't convince those that don't want to change and have made their minds up on what they want to use, you'll just be wasting your breath.

Personally, I wouldn't use them because you can see daylight through the rather large holes in them. Good for stopping insects and twigs, not so for fine dust particles.

Just my 2 cents.:)

Ripping two paper filters sounds like some serious operator error.

Can you read Joel?

I said we tried the K&N oil and it was too thin, the bar oil we tried afterwards and it worked much better for me.

More people have had issues with K&N than success off-road, if you're driving in front on a dirt road chances are you'll get very little dust anyway!

There was no point doing a full rebuild on my motor, we stripped and inspected it and bearings and valves were fine. Obviously a full rebuild would be different, as I said.