Ashcroft Force 9, is there anything better?

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Originally Posted by clubagreenie

Yes but the dry sump sump is only maybe 2" deep. The one used in the latest model that they've run in GT Le Mans category. They run the stock dry sump setup it's actually really well done for factory, I think it's a 5 stage + pressure.

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Thanks mate, any negatives of running this setup with the 556hp LSA?

The only negative I can see is the engine weight. But I am assuming the LSA is a cast engine block?

Other then that I have been watching the firestorm builds over at LRA and they are pimp.

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Originally Posted by Grimace

The only negative I can see is the engine weight. But I am assuming the LSA is a cast engine block?

Other then that I have been watching the firestorm builds over at LRA and they are pimp.

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Aluminum :D..yes they are unreal!

Was refering to the 2inch sump, would that hold enough oil etc for the engine

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Aluminum :D..yes they are unreal!

Was refering to the 2inch sump, would that hold enough oil etc for the engine

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It's just a collection pan, you run external tank and pump

For the India being sloshed around could you not retube gu gear to use off the shelf innards (albeit cal gear etc)
Abs is a workaround but were talking massive electrical changes just with ecu intergration
Dc

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Thats a very good point and i think LRA are confident with the full Ashcroft front end at this stage, but if it does go then it would be the 9" that would be going in.

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even with Ashcroft gear in the front the crownwheel and pinion are going to hate over 500hp. Even pegging the diff will only help so much

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Originally Posted by moparrangie

even with Ashcroft gear in the front the crownwheel and pinion are going to hate over 500hp. Even pegging the diff will only help so much

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Thats what im afraid of, but for the front i think we will try the rover centre with ashcroft everything pegged and hi tough, if something goes then plan B which will involve the 9" up front

Rear at this stage is 9 centre, rover tubes, hi tough axles 31-24spline, upgraded flanges, then if axle fails at 24 end move up to 35-35spline with upgraded spindles , bored out hub with bigger bearings and 35spline flange.Unless someone can confirm where i can currently buy spindles and flages now to suit?

You'll have heaps of clearance for just about any diff. There's an external oil pump and I think 5 scavenge sections, these collect oil from all around the engine. As an example in a race application I'll have them front and rear of each head and 4 or so in the sump. This sends the oil to a collection tank which has to be designed correctly (your first downside). It will de-aerate the oil and start to cool it down. The tank for your application will need to be custom made/designed to fit and work correctly. The benefit is you run a lot more oil so it's cooler and in a regular application you may be able to extend change intervals. From there, it's pumped from the tank by the pressure section of the pump, drawn through an external cooler then the pump an into the engine oil circuit.

The pump should bolt straight onto the engine and the stock factory system was run in ALMS and at Le Mans so it should be fine. There's a heap of lines to organise but again, as it's factory it'll be neat and you won't need to make up much If anything.

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Originally Posted by clubagreenie

You'll have heaps of clearance for just about any diff. There's an external oil pump and I think 5 scavenge sections, these collect oil from all around the engine. As an example in a race application I'll have them front and rear of each head and 4 or so in the sump. This sends the oil to a collection tank which has to be designed correctly (your first downside). It will de-aerate the oil and start to cool it down. The tank for your application will need to be custom made/designed to fit and work correctly. The benefit is you run a lot more oil so it's cooler and in a regular application you may be able to extend change intervals. From there, it's pumped from the tank by the pressure section of the pump, drawn through an external cooler then the pump an into the engine oil circuit.

The pump should bolt straight onto the engine and the stock factory system was run in ALMS and at Le Mans so it should be fine. There's a heap of lines to organise but again, as it's factory it'll be neat and you won't need to make up much If anything.

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Awesome info!