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Thread: Defender 130 300tdi won't start....

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    Pindone Guest

    Defender 130 300tdi won't start....

    Hi,
    First time poster, long time reader...


    I have the opportunity to buy a defender 130 with a 300tdi engine from a guy at work. The problem is it doesn't go anymore haha. He was driving it along the freeway, the bottom radiator hose burst and he stopped immediately and had it towed. He fixed the hose, tried to start it but it wouldn't go. It turns over as normal but won't start.


    It has done only 129000km and had the timing belt done at 60K but he hasn't done it at 120K. The head was replaced at also at 60K as it was deemed to be "porous" in the invoices in his folder of receipts....


    Is anyone able to provide me with any advice on checks that I could perform to determine how serious the issue is. ie cylinder compression?


    Any help would be appreciated as if it turns out to not be to major, I'll be able to get back into a landy again.


    Cheers


    Mark

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    if hes blown a radiator hose off and he hasnt over heated it the head gasket has gone.

    if hes over heated it,,, the head gasket has gone anyway.

    most likely its down on compression between 2+3

    remove the glow plugs and the rocker cover, roll the engine over by hand untill you hit TDC with both valves closed and squirt air down the glow plug hole if it leaks out the expansion tank, gone head gasket. if its out the inlet or exhaust thats valves and out the body of the head thats the rings or the gasket again.

    you might get lucky and its as simple as the wires come off the fuel solenoid. Ive seen that a time or 10
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    Hi, thanks for the fast reply. So
    I shouldn't don't worry about a leak down detector, just simply get a compressor and blow air down and if the gasket is no good bubbles should appear in the reservoir?

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    Try the wire on the injector pump solenoid first [ as Dave said ] you never know your luck .

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    With the head gasket gone it probably would fire up eventually, but run lousy (so it was with mine anyway). Failed fuel solenoid sounds reasonable to me. Should be an easy fix. Even a head gasket is not too difficult to replace. If your mate gives you a good price, I'd go for it. Low Km-Tdi's are becoming increasingly rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post

    you might get lucky and its as simple as the wires come off the fuel solenoid. Ive seen that a time or 10
    Quote Originally Posted by dero View Post
    Try the wire on the injector pump solenoid first [ as Dave said ] you never know your luck .
    Ditto, and it doesn't need to come adrift, just corrosion will render the solenoid inoperative or at least an intermittent fault.

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    checked the solenoid wire and its in place and secure. i'll do the compressed air check through the glow plug holes tomorrow.


    He wants $4K for it. Its got a brand new set of cooper st's on it and new pads, shocks. Going through the list of receipts he has ploughed a lot into it over the time he has had it.


    What do people think for $4K even if I have to put a replacement engine in it?

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    I checked the solenoid wire and its all secure. I'll try the compressed air in the glow plug hole tomorrow.

    My mate is after $4K for it. It has a new set of coopers with sunraysias + the original set of wheels going with it. Warn winch, snorkel etc. He is after $4K what do people think about that, considering, worst case I might need to put a replacement engine in it if it is cooked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pindone View Post
    checked the solenoid wire and its in place and secure. i'll do the compressed air check through the glow plug holes tomorrow.

    He wants $4K for it. Its got a brand new set of cooper st's on it and new pads, shocks. Going through the list of receipts he has ploughed a lot into it over the time he has had it.

    What do people think for $4K even if I have to put a replacement engine in it?
    Buy it.I'm baby sitting a workable tdi 300 for someone, I'll arrange shipping of it for you if you want it or if you get the vehicle out my way I'll help on the instal for you.,I also have a near new clutch assembly I'll throw in (changes because the throw out carried died.

    Pm me if your interested

    The other thing to cbeck is open all 4 injector unions and have someone hold the throttle wide open while it's cranked over if you dint get fuel spurting out you have a fuel supply issue. The engine should maintain an even "beat" on the starter as it cranks over.

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    It might have a gut full of coolant in one or more of the cylinders, anyway do as the other have said, pull the glow plugs and after doing the compressed air trick, with the glow plugs still out, try the starter, any liquid still in the cylinders will blow your hat off as you turn the engine over with the starter.

    Trying to start the engine without clearing the liquid out first could end up with a bent conrod.
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