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12th September 2014, 08:54 AM
#1
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12th September 2014, 09:17 AM
#2
They must be just rubbish bushes. But when you are fitting them Are you over tightening them? And this might sound silly but is it the right shock for the job ie corect lenth ?
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12th September 2014, 11:53 AM
#3
It's all warranty so they're installing them. I have checked with the supplier & TD directly and ensured the springs and shocks are correct...
Would you think genuine land rover rubber bushes could be rubbish 3 times in a row? It seems a long shot to me...
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12th September 2014, 01:51 PM
#4
I had this problem with RRC when I bought TJM shocks many years ago.
The OEM bushes self destructed on one trip.
The only fix was to fit poly bushes which were harder .
These were TJM shocks made by COFAP .
IMHO the reason was that the shocks were just too stiffly valved to be able to use rubber bushes. No problem with Poly bushes but slightly harsher ride.
Regard sPhilip A
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12th September 2014, 03:50 PM
#5
I had this with my disco.
The disco had the cups for the lower 'dished' type bushes. Does the defender have the cups?
I chisel the cups off and fitted flat bushes from the pre-update disco 1.
Problem solved.
Cheers, Adam
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12th September 2014, 08:14 PM
#6
They've all been the donut type with the flat retainer.
I did consider putting poly bushes in but the ride is already bloody harsh...
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12th September 2014, 08:31 PM
#7
I 'inherited' some Monroe shocks when doing a body swap onto a 2" lifted chassis.
As many would know this lift puts the lower rear shock mounts at a bad angle for bush longevity.
Solution was to use Toyota cups (not from Toyota....... they were $7 each
) rubber on the compression side, poly on rebound to maintain correct location.
Done over 120,000k's and all is good, i.e. all bushes are still fine. The Toy cups are really thick but the holes in the mounts need to be marginally enlarged for them to locate properly.
Plenty of free used (but a lot are near new) Toy cups and bushes from any aftermarket 4wd joint that sells stuff like rancho, doggie do, etc. They have literally buckets of them.
cheers, DL
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13th September 2014, 12:52 PM
#8
I used to run tough dog foam cell shocks as part of their 35mm lift kit. The rear lower shock bushes would be fine for months and then in an instant go from fine to mush. I found out the first time in the middle of a week long Vic High country trip. Made for an uncomfortable ride for days of track touring. After that I carried spares. While I blamed the shocks at the time it might be more to do with the lift and the cups.
My TD shocks seemed to have a disproportionate lack of compression resistance and normal rebound resistance. Made for a tinny in a storm handling characteristics. Exaggerated by the weight of the RTT. Only got 45,000 kms out of them. They are now in a tub under the house and should really be land fill.
I too chiseled off the cups and fitted 80 series bushes. The bush has substantially more material. I used locating spigots sold by Gwyn Lewis to centre the shock pin in the axle mount. Since that upgrade the bushes are holding up and look like new even with the ill-effects of long travel suspension.
If you decide to chisel the cups. Drill the spot welds first, easy as pie to knock them off after that. A flapper disk to clean up the surface and a coat of rust inhibitor primer and a lick of paint for good measure. The paint will likely wear off but at least you can say you tried.
MLD
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