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    Thinking of buying a 1995 Discovery diesel

    Hello

    My Stage 1 V8 is getting lonely so I am thinking of buying an early to mid 90s Discovery or Range Rover. I prefer the look of a Range Rover but there are just so many more Discoveries to choose from and they are easier to find in diesel manual form. Anyway, there's a 1995 diesel manual Discovery for sale in a dealer's yard not too far from here. It's done 230000km which is relatively high but it has been a country car. Looks pretty tidy. They can't tell me whether it is a 200 or 300 TDi and I don't know when the change occurred. I've checked out the recent threads on diesel engine life and physical differences between the 2 engines and I'm going to find out about its service history.

    My questions are:
    When did the change from 200 to 300 TDi occur and what else changed at the same time?
    General impressions of 1995 model Discovery compared with those before and after?
    What prices do such vehicles seem to be selling for?
    Other advice on what to check for?

    Thanks,
    Roger

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    93/93 was the 200 / 300 tdi changeover from memory.
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    the 95 model is a 300tdi

    the 95 disco has better air con, a decent glove box, and a few other goodies the earlier models didnt have.

    95 tdi manuals seem to go from $11,000 ->$25,000 depending on service history and extras etc etc etc.

    IMHO the auto is a much better vehicle, slightly better horse power and much smoother and quicker 0-30kph.....
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    Changeover from 200tdi to 300tdi was March '94.

    Other changes that occurred at that time:

    Gearbox from LT77S to R380
    New dash with BMW style gauges and heater controls
    Bigger headlights
    Airbags available as an option

    A few others that I can't recall at the mo.


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    The change point was at the "MA" model year. Get the VIN of the Disco the two letters that precede the last 6 numbers is the Model Year. MA is the 1995 Model Year although the MA was introduced in 1994 Built Date.
    Most manufacturers do this odd thing of introducing say a 2005 model in 2004, I think it must be a US thing to encourage buyers to upgrade to the latest year model.
    Can you recall if the engine had the black rubber looking sound insulator on the top, the 200 tdi did not have this.

    My opinion is the 300 Tdi auto is the pick of the bunch. The autos are virtually trouble free. From memory the 300 Tdi auto was 4wd of the year for it's first 3 years in Australia.

    Hope this helps

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    230,000k isn't that far considering it's a 10yr old vehicle and the average k's of most vehicles is 20,000k per year. Some say diesels are only just run in at 200,000k whether that's a sales ploy I'm not sure though they do last a while.

    Providing you can find the service history will tell you much more than an odometer reading. Quick way to check if it's been serviced regulary is take the oil filler cap off and peer in the hole. If everything has that highly polished clean look, then there is a good chance it's been looked after. If it's got black gunky looking carbon stuff on everything, stay well away from buying it.

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    Yes.... '94 was the changeover. The easy way of delling is the differnt headlamps and the lights mounted in the rear bumper.

    The 300 TDi Disco is also known as the "Facelift" so together with the engine, there were a number of cosmetic changes. IMO, the facelift version if the one to go for and if you don't mind the auto then that's a pretty good option (IMO - LR have never really made a decent manual box!!).

    HTH

    Mark.

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    Just remembered another difference between early 200tdi & later 300tdi discos. The axles changed from flimsy 10 spliners to not quite as flimsy 24 spliners.



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    300 TDi "threw a crankshaft"

    Thanks all. You blokes are really helpful.

    I've since learned a bit more about the thing from the previous owner. Apparently it's a 1996 model, so must be an update model with the 300 TDi motor and R380 box. A couple of years ago it "threw a crankshaft". Started running roughly but he stopped driving before any serious damage was done. The whole bottom end of the motor was redone. Any ideas what this episode might indicate? Should I still regard it as a decent vehicle worth investigating further?

    To those who suggest the auto transmission version, I see your point but I've been driving an old auto Benz for a couple of years and I'd prefer a manual for a while now.

    The dealer is asking $14500 including stamp duty which doesn't seem out of the way if the service records show regular services. Has aircond, power steering, cruise control, power windows and mirrors, dual battery, better seats. No warranty though. I think it might be worth trying to negotiate one.

    Roger

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    As long as the vehicle has been serviced after the work it shouldnt matter. 14500 sounds a bit steep, closer to 11-12 with that amount of Km's would be better, I paid $2500 more last september for my 98 300TDi Manual with 160000km on the clock. My advice, look around, as you said there are a few, for $15000 you wil get a better ring than that one, given all this i havent seen it. Has it got the full service history, are there any signs of heavy off road work (eg, dings scratches etc underneath), what is the interior like, a good interior is a sign of a well looked after vehicle (still not a substitute for a service history). Matt
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