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    300TDi pump tweak puffs of black smoke

    Hi all,

    I did a bit of smoke screw and diapraghm rotation tweak on the FIP. Now, under heavy acceleration I get some black smoke, as expected. What I didn't expect is that it is coming out in series of puffs rather than constant stream of smoke.

    Is this normal or what should I be looking at if it is some kind of unusual behaviour?

    Thanx all!!!

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    Is that what it looks like from the driver's seat or have you observed it from outside the vehicle?

    Is it possible that there is a steady stream of black smoke from the exhaust, but the turbulence behind the vehicle makes it look like a series of puffs?

    1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    Is that what it looks like from the driver's seat or have you observed it from outside the vehicle?

    Is it possible that there is a steady stream of black smoke from the exhaust, but the turbulence behind the vehicle makes it look like a series of puffs?
    From inside the car. Never taught of that. Need to get an observer to confirm. Thanx!!!!

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    More to the point, does it go better ?

    Deano

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanoH View Post
    More to the point, does it go better ?

    Deano
    Yup, bit better, not a rocket, but better than before, especially from standstill!!!

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    Still need to do fine tuning, this was just a rough change. Two turns in for smoke screw, bit shy of 90 degrees for cone. Didn't touch spring preload ring. EGT is still good, where it hit 350 before, now it hits 400-420. Haven't tried any long inclines on 110 km/h or so yet.

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    I've just recently done much the same 2 turns smoke screw and rotated diaphragm 90 degrees so dot marker is at 12 oclock which is them giving full fuelling. I am able to hit EGTs of 700 and beyond very easily if I plant the foot. Is your probe an extended one or standard length? And I'm assuming mounted in EGR blanking plate?

    Pete

    Quote Originally Posted by ROAMER_AUS View Post
    Still need to do fine tuning, this was just a rough change. Two turns in for smoke screw, bit shy of 90 degrees for cone. Didn't touch spring preload ring. EGT is still good, where it hit 350 before, now it hits 400-420. Haven't tried any long inclines on 110 km/h or so yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discopete View Post
    I've just recently done much the same 2 turns smoke screw and rotated diaphragm 90 degrees so dot marker is at 12 oclock which is them giving full fuelling. I am able to hit EGTs of 700 and beyond very easily if I plant the foot. Is your probe an extended one or standard length? And I'm assuming mounted in EGR blanking plate?

    Pete
    Hi Pete,

    12 o'clock doesn't have to be full fueling. On mine, I can see that it has been adjusted before. I didn't take apart actual diapraghm from the excentric cone shaft, but on mine the dot is in about 1/2 of full fueling position. Mine was 3 o'clock, and I turned it to 12 which gave me 3/4 of full fueling. I didn't study it much as I had to reassemble in a hurry, but will have a closer look next time it's off.

    EGT probe is mounted in EGR blanking plate and it sticks about 7cm inside the housing.

    As I said, I didn't try any long inclines under full load yet. Max I was able to get out of it on short bursts of acceleration was 500. It may be slower response probe.

    How's your smoke? Is it visible with those settings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAMER_AUS View Post
    Hi Pete,

    12 o'clock doesn't have to be full fueling. On mine, I can see that it has been adjusted before. I didn't take apart actual diapraghm from the excentric cone shaft, but on mine the dot is in about 1/2 of full fueling position. Mine was 3 o'clock, and I turned it to 12 which gave me 3/4 of full fueling. I didn't study it much as I had to reassemble in a hurry, but will have a closer look next time it's off.

    EGT probe is mounted in EGR blanking plate and it sticks about 7cm inside the housing.

    As I said, I didn't try any long inclines under full load yet. Max I was able to get out of it on short bursts of acceleration was 500. It may be slower response probe.

    How's your smoke? Is it visible with those settings?
    No I should have clarified on mine it is full fuel. There is a bit of smoke but I haven't had someone monitor from behind yet. Doing a bit more adjusting on Sunday so I'll let you know how we go. I'm using an exposed tip probe. Keep us posted on your results, its always interesting to compare.

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by discopete View Post
    No I should have clarified on mine it is full fuel. There is a bit of smoke but I haven't had someone monitor from behind yet. Doing a bit more adjusting on Sunday so I'll let you know how we go. I'm using an exposed tip probe. Keep us posted on your results, its always interesting to compare.

    Pete

    Uhmmm, interesting, if your's is full on and some smoke visible, mine is about 3/4 and obvious smoke, I wonder what the difference is. Mine pumps out air pretty good. Measured at inlet mainforld, it hits 1 bar very quickly.


    We'll keep in touch!

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