Thread: Defender TD5 Service Schedule

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Also the rotor is saying 20,000kms and 10,000kms and filter changes at 60,000kms. Can the oil filter really be left safely for this sort of kms?[/b][/quote]

remember that the centrifuge does most of the cleaning. If you cut open the full flow filter at 60,000km, I'm guessing there would be very little in there.
With conventional (cheap/er) full flow filters, what usually gives out with age and heat are the anti drain back valve, which is generally made of a nitrile material and hardens, and the cellulose based media, which can also harden.
If they (Land Rover) are specifying 60,000km, the filter would probably be using a silicon anti drain back valve and a combination cellulose/glass (synthetic) or straight synthetic media.

FWIW, a large truck operator and consultant I've often talked to runs the large Mann-Hummel (who make the Td5 centrifugal filter) centrifuges on his trucks, and used to use Donaldson ELF (synthetic media) full flow filters and Mobil Delvac 1.
His fleet average oil drain interval is 100,000km. They would cut the Donaldson filters open and they were clean, the centrifugal filter would have a solid mat of debris in it. They stopped using the conventional filters and are now using cleanable 30 micron stainless mesh baskets.
MTU Detroit recently stripped one of his engines @ 1,000,000km and all measurements were within new spec.

<span style="color:blue">look at how many kms they do in a week...
they may be changing oil every couple of months....


an engine on a freeway travelling at top speed and doing low revs wont need oil changes as one running around town with stop/start and going through the whole rev range all the time....
in plain english...the wheels may be doing 100 000 kms but the engine may only feel like it has done 20 000kms.....

all gearbox, diff and transfer case oils are supposed to be changed every two years(40 000kms) on normal driving.....
if you use your car off road i would be doing them at 20 000kms or once a year.....


i change my oil and filters every 5 000kms....

different manufacturers recommend longer and longer intervals between services to make thir cars sound better as in they dont need regular servicing and maintenance....
and its true...a new car will go for three years without an oil change or service.....may not last much longer though...but hey...the warranty is expired and the dealer doesnt worry any more....
also....quite a lot of people get rid of their cars every three years cos thats when problems start...
what they dont realise is that these problems start because of lack of maintenance....

the theory behind all this is ...
i have a new car to drive ever three years.....
i havent really lost much money on the new price as i save that on repairs if i were to keep the car....
i will trade the old one in before it depreciates too much....
and various other reasons...


if you plan to keep your car....the longer it has fresh oil in it the longer it should last...


did i bore you?</span>

zook cant even read your last post 8O 8O 8O


i never as i dont service my car [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] :wink: :wink:

I always thought 40K was a fair interval for drive line lubes, only less Km's if heavy towing or lots of offroad with water etc

Glen

Nice colour text Zook, had to darken my screen to read. Points noted. Was really just wondering why different LR texts recommend different intervals. I have just been led to believe that the servicing schedule for the TD5 has been revised in the last year or two. I would much rather do it more often than cause any damage even for the following owner. Usually even by the manufacturer schedule I usually at least take of a 3rd and for engine oil half their spec. Thanks.

Originally posted by DEFENDERZOOK
look at how many kms they do in a week...
they may be changing oil every couple of months....


an engine on a freeway travelling at top speed and doing low revs wont need oil changes as one running around town with stop/start and going through the whole rev range all the time....
in plain english...the wheels may be doing 100 000 kms but the engine may only feel like it has done 20 000kms.....

all gearbox, diff and transfer case oils are supposed to be changed every two years(40 000kms) on normal driving.....
if you use your car off road i would be doing them at 20 000kms or once a year.....


i change my oil and filters every 5 000kms....

different manufacturers recommend longer and longer intervals between services to make thir cars sound better as in they dont need regular servicing and maintenance....
and its true...a new car will go for three years without an oil change or service.....may not last much longer though...but hey...the warranty is expired and the dealer doesnt worry any more....
also....quite a lot of people get rid of their cars every three years cos thats when problems start...
what they dont realise is that these problems start because of lack of maintenance....

the theory behind all this is ...
i have a new car to drive ever three years.....
i havent really lost much money on the new price as i save that on repairs if i were to keep the car....
i will trade the old one in before it depreciates too much....
and various other reasons...


if you plan to keep your car....the longer it has fresh oil in it the longer it should last...


did i bore you?

Ray now you can :wink: :wink:
zoog bad choice of colour ops: ops: :wink: :wink:

i was going to do the same,but couldn't be bothered :wink: :wink:

<span style="color:green">sorry.... ops: ops: ops: ops: ops: ops: ops: ops: ops: ops: ops: ops: ops: ops:



i clicked on the wrong colour....

all fixed now......


most people think that the less a car needs to be serviced the better it is...
however in todays car market they can almost be considered as disposable cars.....
so the manufacturers come up with all these mythical service intervals....
the engine will last the life of the car....which is currently around 3-5 years...</span>