85w/140

**p38arover** · 10th July 2005, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by rangie5litre
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the difference betweena 'banjo' type and a 'salisbury' type of diff?

What's the best type of oil for the rangie trasfer case[84 model]

Last question first. Use what the manufactuer recommends. Probably EP90.

The term Salisbury refers to a diff which is assembled in the axle housing. Manufacturers of these are, for example, Dana and Salisbury. The long wheel base Landies and the Defenders use them in the rear until very recently. See http://www.britishpacific.com/seriesLandRo...eries_cat33.pdf

A banjo diff refers to the diff housing - once you take the diff (which is assembled into a carrier) out of the axle housing, the resultant hole looks a bit like a banjo.

Rangies (and Discos) use banjo diffs front and rear.

Ron

rangie5litre · 10th July 2005, 07:47 PM

Thanks,
I might try some in the tranfer case, might reduce some of the noise and backlash.........I wonder what the factory suggests?

Cheers Scott.

rangie5litre · 10th July 2005, 07:52 PM

Thanks Ron,
I'll change the t/case next weekend, doesn't look or smell very healthy!

Cheers Scott.

**p38arover** · 10th July 2005, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by rangie5litre
Thanks Ron,
I'll change the t/case next weekend, doesn't look or smell very healthy!

Cheers Scott.

EP oil never smells very nice!

Does you car have a 5-speed gearbox? If so, I assume it will have the LT230T transfer case so EP90 should be the right stuff.

Ron

rangie5litre · 11th July 2005, 05:03 PM

No, Ron its the 727 Torqueflite 3 speeder....you've seen it!

Cheers Scott

[bought your roof rack!]

**shaunp** · 11th July 2005, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by rocket
G'day Folks [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
I 'am not so sure about the current models as I'am a sSeries man but as far as I am aware all Series Landrovers and most Classic Rangies are fitted with HYPOID fully floating diffs, execpt 1957 Series 1's which had Semi-floating for 1year only and are extremely rare,
EP 85/140 is used in high temperature areas, it is extremely thick in cooler climates, it can be used in cases when there is severe wear in the diff gears as a way to take up the slack, in all cases the diff breather needs to be in good working order (clear) . It can also be used in worn transfer cases, or in extreme temperatures. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

cheers

Rocket I'm gunna have to disagree except for late models, Disco's / Rangies use a spiral bevel diff not Hypoid. This the main reason why the Hilux centre conversion is so much stronger as they are Hypoid cut. They look the same it's just the shape of the teeth really. Salisbury rear diffs in Ser 3, 110 and Defenders (up till recently) are certainly a Hypoid gear set. Current Defenders no longer have a Salisbury rear axle they use a late model Rangie type diff.

**hiline** · 11th July 2005, 05:54 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Current Defenders no longer have a Salisbury rear axle they use a late model Rangie type diff.[/quote][/b]

i can vouch for this also,hence the reason i didn't trade my 130 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

lockers aren't inter changeable with the newer model diffs

**p38arover** · 11th July 2005, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by rangie5litre
No, Ron its the 727 Torqueflite 3 speeder....you've seen it!

Cheers Scott

[bought your roof rack!]

Yes, I remember you, Scott, but I'd forgotten that you had the auto box. I was assuming it was a manual.

Ron

**shaunp** · 11th July 2005, 06:36 PM

That's right even the 130s get a banjo now not just the 90's. With respect to Spiral Bevel Diffs I believe they are fitted to all Rovers at from ser 1 to Disco series 2 not sure about D3 and late Rangies, and of course LWB Series 3, Defenders etc are fitted with Salisbury rear. With spiral bevel diff the pinion meshes with the crown at the centre line, not off set like a hypoid diff. This means that the pinion is smaller, these diffs also only ever drive on one tooth at a time, where as a hypoid drives on more than one. In real terms a Hypoid diff is probably at least twice as strong as a spiral beval for the same size. While I have never done a Hilux hypoid conversion I suspect this is why you need a high pinion one for the front, so the drive shaft is up high not at the bottom of the diff, so the angle is right and it clears stuff. Not sure why LR stuck with spiral bevel for so long, but poms do these thing from time to time, ball joints from 50' jags still fitt jags into the 90's go figure.

**sclarke** · 13th July 2005, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by p38arover+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(p38arover)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-rangie5litre
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the difference betweena 'banjo' type and a 'salisbury' type of diff?

What's the best type of oil for the rangie trasfer case[84 model]

Last question first. Use what the manufactuer recommends. Probably EP90.

The term Salisbury refers to a diff which is assembled in the axle housing. Manufacturers of these are, for example, Dana and Salisbury. The long wheel base Landies and the Defenders use them in the rear until very recently. See http://www.britishpacific.com/seriesLandRo...eries_cat33.pdf

A banjo diff refers to the diff housing - once you take the diff (which is assembled into a carrier) out of the axle housing, the resultant hole looks a bit like a banjo.

Rangies (and Discos) use banjo diffs front and rear.

Ron[/b][/quote]

Banjo's in Holdens were known to sound like a Bango when they broke.... Bnangggg

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