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    Another Con exposed - Electronic rust preventer devices

    https://www.finance.nsw.gov.au/about...uction-devices

    No Rust Bust: Warning Re Car Rust Reduction Devices

    25 November 2015


    NSW Fair Trading Commissioner Rod Stowe is warning NSW consumers not to waste their money buying computerised electronic corrosion inhibitors (CECI devices) for motor vehicles after investigations by Western Australia Consumer Protection revealed the devices don't work.
    WA Consumer Protection has entered into an Enforceable Undertaking under the Australian Consumer Law, on behalf of all ACL regulators, with distributors High Performance Corporation Pty Ltd (HPC) and MotorOne Group Pty Ltd (MotorOne) to stop the sale of and secure refunds for consumers who bought devices that were falsely claimed to reduce rust and corrosion by as much as 80 percent in motor vehicles.
    These businesses sell a range of goods and services to the national automotive market largely through vehicle dealerships, auto parts stores and window tinting outlets.
    The device was often sold as part of a package of after sales care products on new vehicles and connects to the vehicle's battery. The devices are generally simply connected to the vehicle battery and an earth point.
    WA Consumer Protection sought independent expert opinion and testing that concluded CECI Units did not prevent rust or corrosion. The makers of other, similar products are also being investigated by WA Consumer Protection. Prices of these similar devices have ranged up to $4,000.
    Mr Stowe said the 'science? behind the claimed protection simply cannot work. For unwanted rust to be attracted to a sacrificial piece of metal using positive electrical current, the negatively connected rusty metal should be in a conductive solution, so essentially the vehicle would need to be constantly submerged in water.
    The undertaking with HPC and MotorOne prevents them from supplying, advertising or promoting CECI Units, or substantially similar devices, in Australia from 31 December 2015.
    It also requires the distributors to write to retailers that sold their products to inform them of the undertaking and the availability of refunds to all consumers who paid hundreds of dollars per device over the period 1 January 2011 to 31 December 2013. Additionally, a notice must be published on the distributors? websites www.defensepak.com.au and www.motoronefleet.com.
    Mr Stowe said false and misleading statements had been made about CECI Units in multiple jurisdictions. This included a claim that ?laboratory tests demonstrate a reduction in the corrosion process by as much as 80 percent effectively doubling your vehicle's life span against rust and corrosion?.
    The undertaking can be viewed at www.commerce.wa.gov.au/undertakings.

    Photo above: CECI Unit on it's own


    Photo above: CECI unit with leaflet out of box



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    Excellent. Could never see how it could work when every rubber bush would break the contact.

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    About time.

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    Gosh. Next they'll tell us that those ultrasonic rat deterrents you plug in to the wall don't work .

    Pricey

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    Luckily Hiclones are made from stainless steel so are not affected...

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    Back in 2004, because of my belief that these were a con, I wrote on another forum:

    Some years back Overlander mag did an article on these. But they never did a follow up article which makes the first article pretty useless - it becomes, basically, an advert for the product.

    I wrote to them suggesting a followup on the original story but they ignored the suggestion.

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    This was debunked years ago on this forum.

    The fact that it has been a successful scam for years is a sad reflection on the level of science education in our schools over the last fifty years.

    "Mr Stowe said the 'science? behind the claimed protection simply cannot work. For unwanted rust to be attracted to a sacrificial piece of metal using positive electrical current, the negatively connected rusty metal should be in a conductive solution,so essentially the vehicle would need to be constantly submerged in water."

    Which is exactly what I have said on a number of occasions over the years in this forum.

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    I think a myth has existed because people have purchased new vehicles, put these devices on them and when they sell them 3 or 4 years later, they say, hey, there's no rust - that proves they work! They don't seem to realise that most cars that are only a few years old without these devices also don't have a rust problem.

    Sort of like putting Tiger repellent on your front door in Sydney. Seen any Tigers around? See, it works

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    This was debunked years ago on this forum.

    The fact that it has been a successful scam for years is a sad reflection on the level of science education in our schools over the last fifty years.

    "Mr Stowe said the 'science? behind the claimed protection simply cannot work. For unwanted rust to be attracted to a sacrificial piece of metal using positive electrical current, the negatively connected rusty metal should be in a conductive solution,so essentially the vehicle would need to be constantly submerged in water."

    Which is exactly what I have said on a number of occasions over the years in this forum.

    John
    Actually, John, the science is sound. Cathodic protection is used extensively on many installations around the world. And that is where the problem lies. It sounds real because it is real. It's just that it's not applied correctly or used in the correct application. There are not many of our Landrovers that are constantly submerged in water, but those that are, I recommend using a cathodic protection system.

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    So why are people still allowed to sell shu-roo's and things like sonic snake deterrents when they have also been proven false? Actually the list of snake oil on the market is amazing. It beggars belief that items that can't be scientifically verified are allowed to go on the market. Homoeopathy anyone?

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