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    Originally posted by VladTepes
    But MT's are sexier [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]
    ooohh
    the NEW sexier DORIS :!:


    how about you buy second hand ones ,,,
    and spend the rest on go fast bits???

    oh wait,,,
    there are no go fast bits for diesels,,

    damn,, dont you just hate that?

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    and to answer the question :roll:


    by AT's.


    (though driving big block muddies around town does keep those edges nice and square :wink: )
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    MT all the way.

    Michael.

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    He He He - instead of the other forums LR versus the rest its MT versus AT here. Bring it on !! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

    Still interested in opnions of 235/85 versus 285/75 from experience
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    Originally posted by VladTepes
    He He He - instead of the other forums LR versus the rest its MT versus AT here. Bring it on !! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
    Are you any the wiser yet :roll:

    Originally posted by VladTepes
    Still interested in opnions of 235/85 versus 285/75 from experience
    My choice for the Fender would be 235/85 R16, very common once your out of town and every backwood garage would even have one lying around even 2nd handers to get you out of a jam.

    Fatter aint always better 8O , they are a good all round combo for Defenders :wink:

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    Originally posted by seqfisho+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seqfisho)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-VladTepes
    He He He - instead of the other forums LR versus the rest its MT versus AT here. Bring it on !! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
    Are you any the wiser yet :roll:

    Originally posted by VladTepes
    Still interested in opnions of 235/85 versus 285/75 from experience
    My choice for the Fender would be 235/85 R16, very common once your out of town and every backwood garage would even have one lying around even 2nd handers to get you out of a jam.

    Fatter aint always better 8O , they are a good all round combo for Defenders :wink:[/b][/quote]

    For those traveling i 2nd that.
    if you have 265/75 then you have to find 2 of the 235/85 so you can match an axle.

    If your only travelling around big towns then take you pic. if you outback 235/85 is the go.....

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    I do like my Goodyear Wrangler MT/R's. For rock, they **** on BFG's but for everyhting else, including mud the reverse is true. The MT/R's are good all-rounder and quieter than the BF's, and by the sound of things they seem to have fixed there compounding problem. This is why I went for the goodyears in the first place. Either that or someone was having a lend of me ops:

    I've done 24k on mine and they still have about 60% tread on them. The BF's are looking likely next time mainly because they have the 255/85 option unkile Goodyear (285's are too wide for me). Plus the 255's in BF's are about $10 more than the 235's in a MT/R when I priced some.

    Regards to 265's V 235's, I prefer the narrower tread. Wide tyres tend to aquaplane a bit off-road. Good example I have a mate with 265's on and we both attempted a slippery hill. He took about 3-4 goes (with rear locker) and climbed it wheres I did it in one go with my 235's (with my rear only in as a fair comparison). My arguement is that narrower tyres allow you to bit into the terrain easier than wider options.

    People may beg to differ, but tyres are a personal prefernece and what works for one doesn't for another. If you are happier with the size you have, replace them with the same is all I can say.

    Trav

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    I do now have a set of 5.5 standard rims and I'm trying to work out what is the best way to go. 40,000ks a year plus play time means it can get very expensive.

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    Originally posted by VladTepes
    OK the BFG MT's are sounding good.

    Henry you mention the 265/75's were your size of choice. What width rims are you running these on and has it compromised turning circle more than the standard 235/85's? Did you have to adjust the bump stops?
    G'Day Vlad,

    I run 265/75/16 BFG M/T on my Defender and have for the last three sets of tyres averaging 55 - 60,000km per set. The older style were better than the newer KO's, but the KO's better handle the tar, I guess they are a bit softer as they wear little quicker. I run them on 7" Disco rims (steel).

    I had to adjust the bump stop rubbing on radial arms, don't notice that much turning problems, still better than a 130, but not much.

    I don't use the Defender as a daily user, only weekends O/R jaunts & big trips (200,000), but Rangie has 285/75/16 BFG M/T and I use that as a daily user, and I'm a Sales Agent (Rep who works for himself), very easy to live with contrary to popular belief, they behave well, although now a bit noisier as only about 10,000km left of tread, but that is what windows are for, not a problem in diesel can't hear tyres over engine noise.

    I've converted many mates in LROC and others to BFG M/T, will never go back, would only change to Coopers just to try, no other reason.

    The Defender has almost been around Australia, been most places twice and only problem so far one spiked tyre (easy fix) and two seam leaks (low pressure in muddy conditions again easy fix).

    And talking about hard size tyres to buy in outback only problem I've had was with teavelling club member getting standard tyre to suit Disco S2 Winton, everything else is catered for, big tyres common in Birdsville & Innaminka for instance, they cater for city fellas flat tyres, most Toyota & Nissan run 285/ tyres standard today, these are the modern times would agree 5 - 10 years ago but not now! You shouldn't be going anyware near the outback without at least two spares any way one on back one on roof or two (cases only on roof though).

    Cheers
    Bryce

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>tyres averaging 55 - 60,000km per set.[/b][/quote]
    8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O stuff that for usage

    AT for me 100 - 110 k's per set [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
    much better
    130's rule

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    Originally posted by hiline
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>tyres averaging 55 - 60,000km per set.
    8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O stuff that for usage

    AT for me 100 - 110 k's per set [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
    much better[/b][/quote]

    Even when I did run A/T on '76 Rangie that was impossible mileage to achieve, you don't drive hard enough - you are alowed to let the pressure down you know :roll: :roll: :wink: youv'e got to get off road more ops:

    A/T are limited in serious stuff, M/T's poor man diff lock by comparison 235 or 265/285, oils aint oils :wink: I've seen it too many times always helping the A/T guy out or up when things get realy sticky.

    Cheers
    Bryce 8)

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