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    juddo Guest

    Holed fuel tank problems

    I bought a new fuel tank for my Rangie about 1 year ago (metal tank - standard size) because the old one was leaking from the bottom. About 6 months after I bought it I put a hole in the bottom. More like a very small crack really, that constantly weaps.

    This was fixed with petrol tank repair kit. I then put another hole just the same about 3 inches from the first. I have a feeling that it is something to do with the tank flexing as it only happens when in the bush getting a bit of flex.

    Now both are fixed with the petrol tank repair putty stuff. This is OK, but just about every time I go out 4wding I have to replace the repairs because they let go and start letting the petrol past.

    Does anyone have a better idea on a fix, short of replacing the tank again?

    Cheers,

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    [b]<span style="color:blue">the only way to fix it is by brazing or welding it up.....


    to weld up a fuel tank you need to remove first the fuel then the tank.....

    sit it in the sun for a day so any remaining fuel will dry out/evaporate.....

    flush out with water...lots of water....

    then it will be safe to weld up the cracks/holes.....


    (the procedure we were taught was to flush with water and then connect it to an exhaust pipe of a running engine for half an hour to get it hot and dry....
    personally i dont like the thought of having all that exhaust soot in my tank......
    let alone idling an engine for that long....)</span>

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    you can also fiil with water and then weld it as its the fumes that explode not the fuel or you can run a compressor with air running into the tank constantly

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    The only safe way is:

    steam clean tank for 30 min.

    fill with inert gas then weld.


    you can also solder USE Heated iron not gas heated.

    Michael.

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    It all seems too hard. Why did I have to ask?

    HSV Rangie - are you suggesting using the solder with solder iron (electric) not gas, without first prepairing the tank as per the other posts? Still seems a bit dangerous to me.

    Makes it a bit hard when the Rangie is my daily vehicle. Would probably be a lot easier to just replace the tank. It only takes a couple of hours.

    I will have to think about this one.

    Thanks for the advise.

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    Originally posted by juddo
    It all seems too hard. Why did I have to ask?

    HSV Rangie - are you suggesting using the solder with solder iron (electric) not gas, without first prepairing the tank as per the other posts? Still seems a bit dangerous to me.

    Me too - and you won't do a reasonable job with the tank in place anyway.

    The point is, the risk of igniting fuel is a lot less by using an electric soldering iron, but the consequences are the same if it does ignite.

    Soft solder is unlikely to do a better job than the stuff you are using, particularly if the tank is cracking because of flexing (which sounds unlikely to me unless it was a substandard one in the first place), although a sweated on patch might work - but you won't do that with a soldering iron.
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    We got a crack in our fuel tank ( Plymouth station wagon ) while traveling through Mexico when I was a kid. This guy from a "garage" simply filled the tank with petrol then braze welded it.

    As mentioned before, its the vapour which explodes and a full tank contains no vapour and no oxygen. The fuel that is leaking will catch fire, but you wont even notice with an oxy torch in action [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

    We had a manual arts teacher who braze weld a empty and "clean" jerry can when I was at highschool. There was an almighty thump, the jerry can open up like a can of sardines and the teacher needed an emergency undy change [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Originally posted by BMac
    We got a crack in our fuel tank ( Plymouth station wagon ) while traveling through Mexico when I was a kid. This guy from a "garage" simply filled the tank with petrol then braze welded it.

    As mentioned before, its the vapour which explodes and a full tank contains no vapour and no oxygen. The fuel that is leaking will catch fire, but you wont even notice with an oxy torch in action [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

    We had a manual arts teacher who braze weld a empty and "clean" jerry can when I was at highschool. There was an almighty thump, the jerry can open up like a can of sardines and the teacher needed an emergency undy change [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

    Bruce.




    [b]<span style="color:darkred">this all makes sense.....
    but you gotta leave any containers you are heating open...
    they need to breath so they dont build up pressure
    or they will explode like the jerrycan......</span>

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    Fix the existing one with an internal repair kit.

    Have a look at www.por15.com.au

    I used the fuel tank repair kit on my rangie and it worked well. Don't know for how long as I've sold it now but it certainly stop the big leak for a month or so in th eheat of summer and it was pounded over a couple of hills in that time.

    Worth a try.

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    Thanks for the input everybody. I have reread the info on the repair kit that I have and they rekon that it should be a permant repair. There was some crap about the bond being strong enough to lift the car with!!!

    Anyway, from the instructions, perhaps the major problem with mine is insufficient surface preperation. Although I have taken care each time, the repairs have always been in less than ideal locations.

    I think that I will try the repair stuff one more time and make sure that I do it right. If it still does not work, then plan B. Whatever that might end up being.

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