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    300 Tdi boost

    Hello Everyone
    My 300Tdi defender boost pressure is around 15psi and I want to increase it to around 16/17psi so I was wondering roughly how much do I have to shorten the waste gate rod by. I read somewhere that 3mm is about 1psi is that right? I know each engine is probably different but I am just after a starting point.
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    How about a boost controller? They are quite easy to install and not that expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAMER_AUS View Post
    How about a boost controller? They are quite easy to install and not that expensive.
    How do they work? who makes them ?

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    Shortening a wastegate is free

    Best done using a boost gauge.. As you'll need to test under WOT under load.

    You should consider adjusting the fuel (get it done correctly or you can melt the motor) to match the extra air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEF95 View Post
    How do they work? who makes them ?
    Couple different principles but in simplest terms they all reduce pressure in the sensing line coming from your turbo and pass it onto the wastegate resulting in wastegate opening at higher pressure. There are many variants and brands, but I don't think you need anything more than basic on 300 tdi. I got el cheapo from ebay on mine, and it's working fine. Just google it, ther eis plenty of diagrams pictures etc.
    And yeah, if you are gonna start playing with boost and fueling, boost and egt gauge would be good as stated above!!!!

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    Thanks ROAMER AUS I will have a look on ebay. I already have a boost and egt gauge fitted

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    These come highly recommended. And Australian made. Very stable boost with minimal spikes.

    Turbotech Manual Turbo Boost Controller THE Original | eBay

    Dave

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    I use the boost tee posted above.
    Very handy because as you increase fueling the boost increases aswell.
    The boost controller will allow you to increase the boost but will not allow you to decrease down past what the wastegate is currently set at.
    I set the wastegate at 12psi and use the boost tee to bring it up to 17psi.
    Only issue is that it is venting boost which means small amounts of oil from blowby escapes from the tee.
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    Sum of all actuator rods ...

    Morning all, complete newbie, first post here.

    I've spent the last few weeks picking all the amazingly clever and experienced brains here around this very subject. Lots of info covering this exact topic, but it's spread around lots of threads.

    So, after mind numbing amounts of reading and some very enthusiastic and carful experimentation, the summary of everything the Wise Ones have to say seems to be:
    The wastegate actuator rod length only technically changes the point at which the actuator actually opens the wastegate, though there's probably differences in individual engines and setups ... and which way you hold your xxxxx ... I mean tongue, and how far below sea level you are, and which way the wind and smoke is blowing. My own lovely old 300tdi gives me an extra 0.5 to 1.0 psi boost when I wind the rod shorter, and increases the low rev power/torque amazingly.
    The easiest way to up the boost seems to be to move the wastegate sense hose from the turbo outlet to the spare blanking plug on the rear of the intake manifold (?M14 or M12x1.5 thread). This seems to increase the boost on my 300tdi by about 2.0 to 3.0psi (with clean hoses, intercooler, boil the billy, block the unused port on the turbo tee, wash the dog etc). This is due to the friction in the pipes and intercooler effectively reducing the pressure at the manifold. So the actuator now 'waits' til the turbo output is a little higher, to reach wastegate opening point. Works well on mine, though I understand this may reduce effective fuel ratios a little - my next adventure in the black arts of Landy diesel tinkering.

    As for turbo boost controls, the sum of all knowledge on aulro seems to be that these things are simply valves to enable variable amounts of leakage to atmosphere from the turbo to wastegate actuator hose - given a bit of filtering and damping of the air signal - I understand you can use any appropriate tap, valve, kinked copper pipe, rock stuffed up the hose etc, that will allow the right amount of leakage, to effectively reduce the pressure signal to the actuator, so that it opens at higher pressure.
    One Wise Landyphile (who I can't recall, sorry) posted a link to a hand made very cheap boost valve along these lines: AutoSpeed - Brilliant Boost

    Anyway, hope that helps the OP to get a bit more for a lot less.
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