Reply With QuoteIf you hadnt "fiddled" with it Id say you had the clutch plate in the wrong way.
But...
Fossicker
Td5 Flywheel bolted solid
Well we have a Disco in that came with the following fauilt decription..
"I have a horrible noise when I put it into gear and my mechanic says it is an oring that isn't properly greased."
To make a long story short, the flywheel was very floppy and the the primary shaft even more so.
So we replaced the primary shaft and 3 bearings and went to talk to the client.
Look, that's your fllywheel. it should have radial play but not this.. listen how it rattles inside, that is your noise...
A new one is about 1000 USD by air here plus a prohibitive import tax.
And he needs the car.
So the neighbour workshop ( milling and turning) did a really nice job gutting it and solidified it.
I went through my stock and decided a v8 clutch plate is the right size and nicely sprung.
Vinicio the neigbour also skimmed the clutch cover which was very strangly worn only on the inside, the clutch plate only on the outside.
Now we had it out 3 times, made a longer rod, checked it in Vinicio's press, the clutch just won't clear. Tried different slave cylinder from the 300tdi with nore travel.
We have 3 options... find another plate... very tricky here
use a different fork rather than the bent back one from the td5
or make some sleeve that puts more pressure on the realease bearing.
Hint.. it goes into 5th but nothing else.
ChatterBox
If you hadnt "fiddled" with it Id say you had the clutch plate in the wrong way.
But...
YarnMaster
+1, seems very like plate the other way around, are you sure it's with the pointed side toward the flywheel?
Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned
Fossicker
Well I seriously fiddled with it.. yes I know I did once install a standard td5 one the wrong way and thus learned it. Silly meOriginally Posted by strangy
If you hadnt "fiddled" with it Id say you had the clutch plate in the wrong way.
But...
but this is a V8 5 speed clutch plate since it is a slightly bigger diameter than the original one and it has spring which the td5 lacks.
So which way would you fit this one?
Any which way since the client is ever so slightly p...d off I need to open the workshop tomorrow morning on a sunday and take the sodding thing out AGAIN
drives me nuts but once we find out it might serve a thousand others who are not loaded with money
YarnMaster
The layout for the V8 clutch plate is the same in RAVE, the pic is like a copy paste of the Td5 one
Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned
Fossicker
thank you very much... but to me it looks the other way round.
Let me see ...
BTW it STILL drives me nuts.Off to work in 10 minutes , it is 720 AM on a Sunday
YarnMaster
not to me
Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned
Fossicker
Not the same
They are definitely like in the CUT VIEW in my attachment.
We had the whole lot out again... I said.. it isn't the other way round by any chance.
So we measure the clutch plate fully out with the td5 and the v8 disk.. 7 mm difference.
the solution is to reduce the hub of the v8 disk on the inside where the splines are , just turn it out by 2.5 mm to make space for the shaft.
then put a thin spacer under the pivot for the release bearing, job done.
40 % more clutch surface, no dual mass, no vibrations... PERFECT.
LISTO as we say here.
Client his happy well we didn't earn much on the job but next time we know what to do
Swaggie
They are definitely like in the CUT VIEW in my attachment.
We had the whole lot out again... I said.. it isn't the other way round by any chance.
So we measure the clutch plate fully out with the td5 and the v8 disk.. 7 mm difference.
then put a thin spacer under the pivot for the release bearing, job done.
40 % more clutch surface, no dual mass, no vibrations... PERFECT.
LISTO as we say here.
Client his happy well we didn't earn much on the job but next time we know what to do
Good job!!😊. The turning out of the inner hub was slso done with the isuzu 4bd1 to lt95 conversions here in Australia. The spigot adapter was in these instances the culprit as it protruded quite a bit in towatds the transmission and there was quite a bit removed from the clutch boss to clear it.
Jc
The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈
YarnMaster
IMO that's far from being perfect for a D2... i fitted a solid flywheel on mine long time ago based also on this kind of statements from forums then had to pay for work again and buy a DMF too cos i was fed up with the vibrations at higher speeds(above 80km/h) especially in 4'th when i had to floor it... IMO on a long run this setup will hurt something cos as the book sais and i can confirm from my own experience "The dual mass flywheel is used to insulate the gearbox from torsional and transient vibrations produced by the engine."... no dual mass, no vibrations... PERFECT....
Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned
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