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    Quote Originally Posted by mattims View Post
    yes i think with slotted swivels you are closer to correct angles for a normal shaft. with caster corrected bushes (or radius arms) you end up close to correct for a double cardan ie angle on one end and straight the other, although the tc angle is still pretty steep.. around 10-12 degrees mine ended up at which is still probably a bit more than a double cardan really wants.
    The funny thing is I was an advocate for slotting swivels for a lift and I've just installed what I knew was crap.

    I could maybe get the slotted ones back, but this new diff is really a defender / county with raiko top swivel bushes, county cv's, and are they the same swivel balls as RRC??

    cheers, DL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidbeen View Post
    Early this morning I sent off an email enquiring about a Tom Woods unit to Off-Road Konection - Your off-road part, accessory, wheel & tyre speciality store. No reply yet. They all say on their web sites 'contact us' but when you do they do not get back to you. Seems to be a trend not to reply and I wonder why they even bother putting 'contact us' on their web pages.
    Why did you contact that company - they might have standard Tom Woods stuff but they do not make them.

    Contact Tom Woods Driveshafts through their website. They respond

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    I spoke to.Tom. Great bloke. Uber helpful. I told him Jeep Connection had a d2 in stock and be suggested it would be about the same price and quicker to buy from them (he would know they would restock). So I did. Great service from Jeep Connection too.

    Cheers

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    I crawled under to have a look at the front propeller shaft today. Have been researching tailshaft phasing and vibration on the web and it appears that my front propeller shaft (1995 Defender 130) is out of phase. Is that normal? If you want a photo I could crawl back under to get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidbeen View Post
    I crawled under to have a look at the front propeller shaft today. Have been researching tailshaft phasing and vibration on the web and it appears that my front propeller shaft (1995 Defender 130) is out of phase. Is that normal? If you want a photo I could crawl back under to get one.
    Yes!

    If it was lined up in phase it'd vibrate.

    This was Land Rover's cheap arse way of not needing a DC front shaft, but it works.

    The front pinion points up at the t/case basically in line with the shaft.
    If the pinion angle matched the t/case output shaft angle we'd run the unis in phase.

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    Some info already noted...

    *Yes Defender front shaft is out of phase (as in the CV joints arent in line with each end.
    *A heavy duty DC front shaft is available from British Parts of Utah-Land Range Rover Sport LR4 LR3 LR2 Discovery Defender Freelander Genuine OEM Accessories Parts
    *Have used many of these on the Discovery 2 and Defenders upto a TD5 and are bullet proof.
    *Change Defender front output flange to a Discovery 2 and it will bolt on.
    *Using the Discovery 2 heavy duty shaft keeps things stock within normal available parts.
    *A Defender can suffer the rumbling overrun vibration after a suspension replacement/lift.
    *Cant really be used on a Defender TDCi (2007 onwards) as the transfer case sits 65mm further back.
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    Daz, Tom Wood can supply his DC shaft with a Deefer flange on the DC coupling so it's a straight bolt on, no need to change to a D2 output flange.

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    Jeep Konection said to let them know what I require and they can get it in from Tom Woods for me.

    On the other hand, Tom Woods said he can send one to me direct. He would need to know freight details and mentioned a freight forwarding agent, which I do not have. What is the best way of having it shipped from the US and I wonder what cost would be involved?

    Maybe it could be cheaper from Jeep Konection as it would be sent in a bulk order to them.

    Anyone with an opinion or advice?

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    Tom used UPS both times I was sent a shaft and UPS ****ed it up even though it was correctly addressed, the first one ended up in Austria.....

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    [QUOTE=workingonit;2795205]
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    T a sledge hammer ready to pound the crap outa the gear box /QUOTE]

    Was it a thread on the Isuzu forum, someone went to inspect MSA boxes for sale to find bits of the casing knocked out? Makes sense in light of your comment.

    Found an ebay example of the Ford u-bolt for sale, the vendor saying the 1330 and 1350 yolk to suit were also available. I'm guessing this is what you show in the photo, and at first sight it looks fragile, but I guess you wouldn't have it if it weren't stronger than the LRover set up (plus lots of free space to work on it). Is it a straight forward swap over?

    Thanks for another interesting insight.
    The front is fairly simple just needs the unsplined bit turned off they are available in 1310 , 1330 and 1350 in different lengths and material .The rear I used a disc brake wich is mounted closer to the TC and needed to make a special nut so not sure what would be involved with a drum brake

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