Thread: Series 3 Stage 1 and Thomas Winch

This is all good stuff. I have posted a pic of my pto driveline, I made a bracket out of 2" Angle to drop it to get under the front member, maybe something like that would help you Adrian. It looks as though yours is exactly the same as one-iota's but he does not say if it suits a 110/Stage 1

It's out of a SIII stage 1...bolted to an lt95

and this is the only time I have been mechanically winched :wink:

Things are quick in the Matrix
Here is another pic looking forwards, sorry its side on, you can see the winch cable to the right.

Things are quick in the Matrix indeed!

Hi one_iota. It's hard to tell if there is a difference in the length of the PTO unit from the photo but there is certainly a difference in the bolts holding the unit together as you mentioned and also in the casting as there is a support(gusset?) molded in from the flange to the housing.

It does appear as though the position of the bolt pattern, PTO to LT95 is the same though from what I can make out. I'll have to offer it up to my gearbox and see how it sits I think.

Hi DeeJay. Does one_iota's and my PTO appear the same as yours???? Thanks for the photos, you don't run the steering shock absorber? I think the location of your PTO bracket just below the engine mount is probably the go though. I've got the Isuzu engine anyway and the sump projects out the left side of the motor so making a bracket to come off the side of the motor was not looking very likely.

Apparently the bearings for the PTO are imperial so the shop had to order them in, same with the gasket for the rear of the LT95 at Moorwood motors(ordered in that is, not imperial!) so the bits are in Thursday and hopefully I can assemble the PTO by the weekend and maybe run the linkages with some cable ties or something to see how it looks.

Cheers

Adrian.

Hi Adrian,
Its a bit hard to tell but my PTO housing might be marginally higher hence the need to modify the floor a bit.
Truth is I was going to make another bracket for the steering damper and that was 6 plus years ago and countless "hard" 4WD trips. Buggered if I miss it, so its still under the workbench.
Good habit to keep your thumbs out of the wheel centre anyway, lucky that one was drilled into me by the Army instructors. The only person I have seen "burn" his hands was in a jeep. Of course I was pretty quick to say " gee thats never happened in my Landrover"
Good luck with it- one use I have thanked the powers that be for, is that the winch has been used to lower me down some slopes that I have not made it up.I get the heebeejeebies reversing, especially wet clay.
Cheers

Gday Aryoch

Have some dimensions and photos of PTO winch installed for those that are interested. The dimensions of the Thomas PTO unit for the rangies is about 265mm and for the 110s is about 315mm, measurement is the length of the back cover plate from tip to tip (the bit you can see in the first photo has a ridge running down the middle). Also following is a few photos of the PTO installed and where the shaft runs and lastly view from front.







The photos arent great (click on to get larger) as I have to crawl around underneath to get them no acess to hoist. Let me know if you want more or specific areas and will see what I can do.

good luck
Luke

My PTO and winch look exactly the same as yours. I had to put an extra universal joint and a plummer block bearing on the chassis, just to the left of the sump on the passenger side to make a 'kink' in the drive train. There was no straight path possible for a single shaft. This works fine and there are no holes to cut. I'll take some photos and post them up.

Dunnie, WA

Hi

Thanks for the wonderful pics DeeJay and Luke. Fantastic and really helpfull.

And the measurements. Definately have a Range Rover PTO.



I like the idea that Dunnie used and think that is the way to go. Not totally sure which bit the plummer block bearing is? But Google seems to list plenty of companies that sell them! Back to the bearing shop.

I've picked up the bearings to re-assemble the PTO housing but haven't done so yet. Had to work at the paying job most of the weekend but will post some more when something progresses, sooner than later hopefully.

Cheers

Adrian