Thread: Synthetic rope winch - offset hawse - mounting and downward load issues?

Originally Posted by prelude

A hawse is usually only rounded on the outside, not the inside. It is expected that the drum is pretty much in line with the hawse and there might be your biggest issue.

These two I have here are rounded on both sides.

Originally Posted by prelude

Personally I would cut out that bit of metal to simply avoid that problem.

Has been done.

Originally Posted by prelude

The alternative would be mounting a hawse on the inside as well if you have the space. There would be a gap between both units so you would have to check for sharp edges. Also, this would increase the angle even more.

Leads to other complications as the top of the winch also needs to be spaced out from the bar etc. With the straight hawse the metal would still stick up in the thread hole and with the offset as you've mentioned the angle of the rope off the drum up to the hawse would be even steeper.

Originally Posted by trout1105

I have an ARB deluxe bullbar fitted to my D2a and the hawse is also somewhat off-centre which leaves a small portion of the steel protruding into the hawse opening.

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My advice is to fit the standard hawse and NOT to cut into the bar as that can only weaken it

I'm just not comfortable with the risk of it. A failed rope can have significant consequences for the vehicles and people nearby. I can't see that taking that small amount of steel out of the bar will cause significant weakening of the bullbar - for frontal impact I've already found the rush cans to be the weak failure point, for winching, the winch itself with the two thick and small brace bars adds it's own level of bracing strength to the bullbar.

Originally Posted by loanrangie

Looking at the bar pic it looks almost identical position wise to my ARB D3 bar, i got the offset hawse ,rotated the gearbox and removed the transport brace rod and it all lines up nicely.

But with the rope path going up from the drum to enter the offset hawse's throat I assume?

Originally Posted by roverrescue

Because rope is so easy to work with there is some logic on only have 20m of string on the drum.

Turn the cut off 10 into a short extension and buy a 30 or couple of 30s as long extensions.

With that offset Hawse and only a few wraps on the drum, I don’t think you’ll have an alignment problem (obviously lose the little bracing bars)

A sound idea and logic although does add complications of needing to carrying seperate extensions in the vehicle and arguably introducing additional failure points in each connection but still the idea has some good merit to it!

Originally Posted by loanrangie

I got the Grande as i didn't like that horrible wrinkle black finish

They seem to have dropped the Grande from their range. I could never understand why they offered both when the specs were so similar (minor pros and cons could be found for both). Once it's installed behind the bar can't see the wrinkle finish anyways.

Rope path is not horizontal but not far off, doesn't make any difference. I hate the wrinkle finish , even behind the bar i would know.