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    Quote Originally Posted by camel_landy
    It's dark here now but I'll have to get a photo of the chipping in my MTRs... They were given a good thrashing by Ali's (Reeds90) brother when we put them on the racer & then gave it some stick in an area with lots of flint!!!



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    This is them....




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    Go Simex I,ve just put a set 32/10.5/16 extreme trekker centipeds on genuine landy rims on my 130 there awsome.All i had to do to to fit them was adjust the turn stop bolts about four turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rover
    Presently, considering new tyres for the Defender 130. I apprecaite there has been much discussion lately about tyres, but have narrowed my choice to either BF Goodrich AT or the new Goodyear Silent Armor.

    Can anyone provide advise as to reliability, tread life etc.

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    Go Simex I,ve just put 32/10.5/16s extreme trekker centipedes on genuine landy rims on my 130 there awsome.All i had to do to fit them was adjust the turn stop bolts about four turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace
    Dont just consider BFG or GY i have a set of Mickey Thompson Baja MTX's on my disco and love them. Lots of sharp rocks around here and they havent chipped at all, they are light truck construction so tough and they were the same price as the GoodYear A/T's (not sure how much the new silent armours are) and they were $60 cheaper than the equivalent BFG A/T's. Matt
    Its not the lots of sharp rocks that destroy them, its the constant bombardment of small "gibba rocks" from the front wheels onto the rear at speed.

    Every car (10) on my Gulf Trip a few years ago suffered this chipping, irrespective of brand infact on this trip 11 tyres where destroyed or repaired including the unbreakable Coopers & are they hard to replace in the bush. We had BFG, Coopers & Goodyear tyres on this trip, my BFG muddies the only tyres not touched by spiking only chipped on the back. They were only new for the trip & took off & replaced with two new when I got back, but have now recycled the chipped ones & are currently now on the Defender for 6 months, the chips are weraing down can hardly notice now.

    And noway are they out of date quite the contrary with the updated KO muddies, in my opinion the best off road tyre before you step up to the extreme tyres like Simex etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoverOne
    Its not the lots of sharp rocks that destroy them, its the constant bombardment of small "gibba rocks" from the front wheels onto the rear at speed.

    Every car (10) on my Gulf Trip a few years ago suffered this chipping, irrespective of brand infact on this trip 11 tyres where destroyed or repaired including the unbreakable Coopers & are they hard to replace in the bush. We had BFG, Coopers & Goodyear tyres on this trip, my BFG muddies the only tyres not touched by spiking only chipped on the back. They were only new for the trip & took off & replaced with two new when I got back, but have now recycled the chipped ones & are currently now on the Defender for 6 months, the chips are weraing down can hardly notice now.
    Actually.... I'd have to disagree.

    From my observations while in Oz, it's not the terrain that kills the tyres but the really low pressures that you guys like to run at. I did 30,000KM around Oz, never suffered from tyre damage and the only puctures I had were from 2x broken rims. Running at the lower pressure knackers the sidewalls & makes the tyres get too hot.

    The pressures I ran were close to the the recomended LR ones (45psi front & 60psi rear). The only time I ran lower was when on sand and then went to 25psi & 35psi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camel_landy
    Actually.... I'd have to disagree.

    From my observations while in Oz, it's not the terrain that kills the tyres but the really low pressures that you guys like to run at. I did 30,000KM around Oz, never suffered from tyre damage and the only puctures I had were from 2x broken rims. Running at the lower pressure knackers the sidewalls & makes the tyres get too hot.

    The pressures I ran were close to the the recomended LR ones (45psi front & 60psi rear). The only time I ran lower was when on sand and then went to 25psi & 35psi.

    My 2c...

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    That also could be part of it I guess, but why only rear tyres appear to suffer, my front tyres are perfect. I always run 40 rear (45 fully loaded) 36 front on the Defender, which is the recommended for BFG 265/75. I never lower my tyres anywhere unless in rocky steps & steep wet climbs and then get down to 20 - 25 depending on the conditions & inflate to go home. From memoery they used to be the pressures on the old 750/16 on the Michelin's that you use.

    If you had been on the sections we travelled on without damage you'd have been a legend, that trip the only tar we travelled on was Sydney to Bourke & the odd jaunt into a town centre for the odd few kilometres of tar. The return journey from Karumbah the only tar was crossing the highway at Camooweal, a couple of tiny towns (Bedourie, Boulia etc) back onto real tar just north of Cobar, same going up 20% of the trip on tar the rest outback roads, the trip was especially tailored to avoid tar around 9,000km in 22 days.

    BTW I've been around Australia twice (once in one go) mostly before all the tar was lain & graded highways throughout the Kimberleys, no tar across the Nullabor then etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoverOne
    That also could be part of it I guess, but why only rear tyres appear to suffer, my front tyres are perfect.
    Weight distribution? Have you checked the axle weights?

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    I have owned both and currently have 255/85R16 BFG muddies, mainly because they're the only ones that make that size.

    I've had BFG all-terrains in the past and apart from them being useless in mud, I got 55K out of them but like anything I own they get flogged to death..

    The Goodyear MT/R's are a great tyre, but the price is a bit out there (I was quoted $310 a tyre for 265/75's, the BFG 255/85's I have now were $290 a tyre. I get an extra inch in ground clerance for $20 less, that was enough to sell me).

    Regards,

    Trav

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    Quote Originally Posted by camel_landy
    Weight distribution? Have you checked the axle weights?

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    Good point I'd be scared to on a big trip, but still it only happened on this trip to all participants tyres.

    Never dented a nob or leading edge on a trip to Cape York, with the same tyres 3 years earlier, or total off road trip through the Flinders the year after, carry half a ton of wood on the roof until we worked out we could burn 3 ton of wood a night of sleepers off the old Ghan Railway. About 15,000km's in those two trips alone without a chip.

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