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    Question then as I maybe considering a Defender between 02-04 model how does the Extreme compare to earlier models in terms of "wet feet" and internal noise and some of the nuances? Thanks

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    The thing you have to realise about the Defender is that there are at least two aspects of the vehicle that are unlike any other car currently built (well, maybe the Morgan).

    1. The basic design dates from the mid forties (1947-8). Much of the detail design, particularly the body and chassis, is unchanged from the Series 2 in 1958. It has evolved rather than being redesigned since these dates. This shows, particularly in the size and shape of the space for the driver and front passengers. Not only has the average size of people increased in the last fifty years, but what was considered adequate space then is no longer considered adequate (and it has been eaten up by much thicker doors and dashboard padding etc.)

    2. The body is bolted together rather than being welded together. This means that the fitting tolerances are much larger than other cars, and there are many more places for water to potentially get in (Example: all other cars I can think of have the floor welded in - the Defender has the front floor in three pieces, bolted in). This method of construction also means that doors have sharp corners for example, that are very difficult to seal properly. It also means that even if it does leak, at least in theory the problem can be fixed (although often it is very hard to find just where it is getting in - it took me years to find and fix my main leak, which was the water coming in along the thread of the windscreen hinge bolts due to the gasket under the hinge being badly installed.) But it also means that a 2006 Defender is just as likely to leak as a 1958 Series 2 (maybe not quite - I think the dealers worry a bit more about it now).
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    Seat Rails

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco


    Any tips on where ???

    Cheers
    For example from this guys: http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/MUD_Seat_Rails.html

    I made them myself. 2" squre RHS from local sheet metal workshop. Cost me $24 cutted, painted + sets of bolts and nuts.

    If you are Land Rover man, you must make it youself

    Ruslan

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    Hey all. First post and as a Series/County/Defender nut yall forgot the best part about driving a Defer when you visit the city, with the raised sitting position being able to see the empty spot in the car park from 6 rows back over the top of all the lowslung mobile crumple zones.

    (not sure if I should make the comment on being able to park on top of the nuff nuffs who steal your parking spot while your trying to shoe horn in something that turns like an ocean liner)

    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other car is your crumple zone"

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