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    The electrical issues don't worry me to much. All my hassles have been mechanical in nature and I would be prepared to leave te computer unplugged for a day to try and clear it. My father-in-law some years ago drowned his Landcruiser in the middle of nowhere. He was the only one in the group with a winch and radio. It took several hours to get his rig out and then they had to leave it there to dry out. After a week he just plugged the computer back in and drove it home.
    If you don't blow the ECU then there are ways around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon
    From what I have read, the Airbus incident was due to the human factor. There was a lack of knowledge regarding the way the system operated, which enabled the plane to be flown into the ground.
    Don't alway believe what you read.....

    There was an Air Disaster type program which investigated the Airbus crash. As a huge multinational business which has contracts in place with various airlines around the world worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, what would you do?

    What Airbus did was an absolute disgrace and in the end hung the pilot out to dry. This corporation blamed one of their top pilots and screwed him then after it was all done through the courts via appeals and being sued by people on the ground this pilot got the lot. It was your typical one man show against the Corporation...who do you think would have won.

    Airbus then went back to the drawing board and modified the system so it would not occur again.

    Don't ever under estimate what a corporation can do and will do to protect their investment

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbo
    This isn't really a new issue though, hence the amount of series vehicles with holden conversions. I could go to Wallendbeen or Gove this arvo and pick up a fuel pump for a red engine over the counter at the servo or mechanical workshop. The problem is the narrow mindedness of all regional and remote locations catering only for Holden, Ford,Toyota and Mitsubishi
    Yes, although you can hardly blame them seeing that is 90% of their business. But things have changed - I remember being in Normanton in the early sixties - the only cars you could get ANY parts for were Holden and Landrover, and not many for them. And no overnight delivery either! But Landrover threw that market away in the sixties and seventies.

    But I don't think parts availability was the main reason for fitting Holden motors to Landrovers - you needed an engine overhaul, and you could fit a Holden motor with improved performance for half the cost of overhauling your Rover engine - no wonder a lot of people did it. Being able to get parts easily was just a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbo
    I don't think they will standardise the systems, why would they they'd lose to much free money.(snip)
    I said I thought it would take a long time! Probably not in the lifetime of anyone here, unless governments force it on them - which may happen, so that the on board computer can be used to check things like emissions compliance, when the airbags were serviced etc. (I can see a new industry developing - hacking the systems records!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
    Hmmm


    So I rather like the SIII analogy if it's got fuel and its got spark it'll get you home. But maybe that is why, despite several test drives of electronic whiz bang modern Landy's I've kept the current one for 20 years!

    However I am on my backside typing, but because I have to work to earn money to go out 4WD'ing and there just aint enough time between one shift and the next to go bush!

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    Ah.......methinks you in the wrong job.

    This my work roster for the last month or so

    12 June (Work); 13-15th (3days Off Work); 16-18th (work); 19 & 20th June (2 days Off Work); 21-23rd (Work); 24 - 26th (3 days Off Work); 27-29th (work); 30th - 2nd July ( 3 days Off Work); 3rd & 4th July (Work); 5th - 9th July (5 days Off work); 10 th & 11 July (Work) 12 - 14th July ( 3 days Off Work); 15th - 17th July ( Work) 18th - 20 July (3 days off work); 21st-23rd July (Work); 24th & 25th July (2 days Off Work); 26th - 28th July (Work); 29th - 31st July (3 days Off Work); 1st - 3rd Aug (Work) 4th - 8th August (5 days Off Work); 9th & 10th August (Work); 11th - 12 th August (3 Days Off Work).
    ....and if I had of done a change of duty with another Officer for the 9th & 10th August I could of had 10 days off, on full pay.......see plenty of time to go test the 4WD, fishing ,camping, getting the mental health sorted out, allowing injuries to heal, working out how to get more time off etc

    Days off - 35; Days worked 28
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    Good roster Rob, what are you, a firey I would assume.

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    reliability ??????

    Hi All,

    Interesting Thread....

    I own a 1996 D1 V8i gas converted.
    She has been a great vehicle, reliable and hasen't missed a beat in
    the the time I have owned her, no major mechanical problems to speak
    of,the only annoyance has been breaking of the spring in several door locks. its my first Landrover and not my last
    On current fuel prices I'm acheiving as good a fuel consumption as
    a diesel, motors done approx 200,000 kms and was thinking of trading
    up to a D2 TD5 but I agree with some of the other posts that the electronics and other gadjets does worry me as this is the family tourer when we get to go away on holidays.

    But she is now 10 years old ............

    So to D2 or not to D2 that is the question??????

    Cheers

    Baggy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggy
    Hi All,

    Interesting Thread....

    I own a 1996 D1 V8i gas converted.
    She has been a great vehicle, reliable and hasen't missed a beat in
    the the time I have owned her, no major mechanical problems to speak
    of,the only annoyance has been breaking of the spring in several door locks. its my first Landrover and not my last
    On current fuel prices I'm acheiving as good a fuel consumption as
    a diesel, motors done approx 200,000 kms and was thinking of trading
    up to a D2 TD5 but I agree with some of the other posts that the electronics and other gadjets does worry me as this is the family tourer when we get to go away on holidays.

    But she is now 10 years old ............

    So to D2 or not to D2 that is the question??????

    Cheers

    Baggy
    TD5 is excellent I get around 750 - 900 km per tank of diesel. It's just if theres a fault theres a problem. The damage was done on a trip I organised "Pre expo Photo run" have a look at the photo's and you'll see the conditions of the day a lot of mud and very rutty ground. This is the first fault I've had on my car. It is a very reliable vehicle but if it happened in a remote area whether through an animal strike, off road damage, corrigations or whatever you'd be stuffed. There's a recent thread concerning a forumite who's TD5 fender is stranded somewhere in WA. These things can happen they are vehicles it can happen to anyone in any car. It's just when it happens to any Landy in general you have to find a mechanic who knows how to fix it. It's worse in a D2 basically cause the faults have to be cleared to regain the functions which make the car such a good offroader.

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    It simply comes down to YOUR level of acceptable risk. Do I want to travel around the country in a Series 3 because I'm too **** scared something happens in a modern vehicle?

    ..or

    Do I take the risk of travelling in a TD5 that will make the trip more enjoyable but apparently more risky?

    If we were to do a pole on this forum of all the TD5 owners you will probably find the number of electrical faults experienced on remore trips are negligible and not worth the fuss. A safe man bets on the averages ..

    Another thing to note, Australia has some of the most remote areas in the world but if you do get stranded, you are stranded in a FIRST WORLD COUNTRY. If you are a prepared traveller, a breakdown will cause inconvenience, time and $$$ but you will get home safely. To me that is a low level of acceptable risk hence I will take my TD5 anywhere in Australia. If I was travelling through Africa than it becomes a different story ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greylandy

    Another thing to note, Australia has some of the most remote areas in the world but if you do get stranded, you are stranded in a FIRST WORLD COUNTRY. If you are a prepared traveller, a breakdown will cause inconvenience, time and $$$ but you will get home safely. To me that is a low level of acceptable risk hence I will take my TD5 anywhere in Australia. If I was travelling through Africa than it becomes a different story ....

    I think that this puts it all into perspective. If you are travelling remotely you WILL have either HF or SatPhone anyway. I don't think that any breakdown is life-threatening these days - as long as you don't leave the vehicle and have all the usual supplies including plenty of water and food. Worst case - use your EPIRB (you DO have one, don't you?)

    I've had no problems with my Td5 Defender other than the usual mechanical faults - i.e. broken shafts, clutch maters, etc., so I'm happy to take it anywhere too.

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