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    TD5 ECU Upgrade

    OK, I know this topic has poked its head up every so often, but since we're all so free and easy with information I thought I'd give it another run. Some of the information posted before may have distilled a bit and clarified too.

    What do people recommend in the way of ECU upgrades for 02MY onwards TD5 Defenders? Not intercoolers, not exhaust mods - just the ECU. And... what are the potential problems? - heat, wear, fuel consumption etc.

    I would like to focus on just the ECU as I have just had a quote for $1600 to install a plug-in module (not sure what brand) by Techno-British here in Brisbane. What have other people paid for plug-ins, replacement ECUs or re-mapping?

    Off we go chaps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by solmanic
    OK, I know this topic has poked its head up every so often, but since we're all so free and easy with information I thought I'd give it another run. Some of the information posted before may have distilled a bit and clarified too.

    What do people recommend in the way of ECU upgrades for 02MY onwards TD5 Defenders? Not intercoolers, not exhaust mods - just the ECU. And... what are the potential problems? - heat, wear, fuel consumption etc.

    I would like to focus on just the ECU as I have just had a quote for $1600 to install a plug-in module (not sure what brand) by Techno-British here in Brisbane. What have other people paid for plug-ins, replacement ECUs or re-mapping?

    Off we go chaps...
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    That's part of my reason for posting this - I would like to get a breadth of opinions about who does what to ECUs, where and for how much.

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    I put in the Bruce Davis ECU last october.
    (00TD5 Disco auto).

    Has made the disco a whole new car with plenty of power and torque on tap. It is a real pleasure to drive.

    Economy has remained the same, the only downside is a small puff of smoke when you first bury the foot( no suprise there).
    Never had any issues with the ECU
    Fitted for $800
    I highly recommend it

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    Remember though usually more power = less life. Is this the case with chipped cars?

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    noobie question: i've only ever seen chips mentioned for series 2 discos - is there one available for my '98 disco Tdi (series 1)?

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    Dobbo I'd say yes & no. Helpful I know.

    Increased bmep = more stress on bearings etc = shorter engine life. Taking advantage of the power, revving it harder = shorter engine life. A diesel that blows smoke under power dilutes the oil, = shorter engine life.

    On the other hand, the TD5 is a world engine. Its been detuned to cope with the crappiest diesel available anywhere (crappy = cetane rating & sulphur content, not impediments, algae & other nasties in there)

    So the TD5 responds to a moderate chip without unduly affecting engine life, if its not blowing smoke. I'd go further & say a moderate chip is kinder on the drivetrain - surely its not as hard on the engine gearbox etc to put your foot down for a few seconds up a hill & going over in top, compared to changing down, using more revs in a lower gear, clutch & synchro wear etc.

    Just my thoughts

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    Solmanic -- what are your plans for your car? Do you plan on keeping it or selling it in a few years?

    Why are you considering it? Do you tow? What sort of driving do you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyH
    noobie question: i've only ever seen chips mentioned for series 2 discos - is there one available for my '98 disco Tdi (series 1)?
    Only the TD5 is computer controlled to be able to take a chip, the 300TDi in your disco is essentially a mechanical unit. it can be tweaked, but there is no computer to chip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tusker
    Dobbo I'd say yes & no. Helpful I know.

    Increased bmep = more stress on bearings etc = shorter engine life. Taking advantage of the power, revving it harder = shorter engine life. A diesel that blows smoke under power dilutes the oil, = shorter engine life.

    On the other hand, the TD5 is a world engine. Its been detuned to cope with the crappiest diesel available anywhere (crappy = cetane rating & sulphur content, not impediments, algae & other nasties in there)

    So the TD5 responds to a moderate chip without unduly affecting engine life, if its not blowing smoke. I'd go further & say a moderate chip is kinder on the drivetrain - surely its not as hard on the engine gearbox etc to put your foot down for a few seconds up a hill & going over in top, compared to changing down, using more revs in a lower gear, clutch & synchro wear etc.

    Just my thoughts

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    Max P
    I think a decent set of headers and exhaust would be kinder, than a remapped ECU. Where would you buy them though, plus I don't know about the Fender but the Disco engine bay is so tight, I don't think a set of tuned extractors would fit, then you'd need to do the intercooler, then you have no option but remap the ECU.

    Replacing the ECU might be the only cheap option you have.

    An interesting thing I have noticed on my D2 after fitting the bigger tyres is that the revs are lower (As expected) because of the lower revs the turbo is spooling a lot faster when overtaking thus making it a lot nicer to drive.

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