Turning off ABS

**ytt105** · 21st September 2006, 04:21 PM

Has anyone figured out how to turn off the ABS, (1993 RR), without setting off the error light.

**dobbo** · 21st September 2006, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by ytt105

Has anyone figured out how to turn off the ABS, (1993 RR), without setting off the error light.

Don't do it read Yabbies thread no brakes, the ABS pump seems too provide power to the braking system without the pump engaging you get

NO BRAKES AT ALL.

**ytt105** · 21st September 2006, 04:34 PM

Not quite true.
I pulled the warning light fuse and the brakes work fine, but the warning light stays on when I re-install the fuse.

I want the ability to turn the ABS on and off at the flick of a switch. I don't like ABS when I'm on dirt roads!

**drivesafe** · 21st September 2006, 05:00 PM

Hi ytt105, instead of turning the ABS off, why not learn to drive on gravel with ABS.

It’s are hard learn but once you get the hang of it you will be able to pull up in near the same distance as you would without ABS but you still have steering control that only ABS will give you, greatly improving your chances of avoiding a collision in the first place.

By the way, it’s great fun learning to try to get the braking just right.

I’ve been messing around with it for a couple of years now and it’s getting there but control of the 4x4 is heaps improved.

Cheers

**Yabbie** · 21st September 2006, 05:06 PM

you could always stay on sealed roads, you know like picking up the kids etc.....

**ladas** · 21st September 2006, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by ytt105

Not quite true.
I pulled the warning light fuse and the brakes work fine, but the warning light stays on when I re-install the fuse.

I want the ability to turn the ABS on and off at the flick of a switch. I don't like ABS when I'm on dirt roads!

Quite True

You have pulled the fuse for the LIGHT not the system.

If I was you I would leave ABS on and change the way you drive on dirt

**ytt105** · 21st September 2006, 09:50 PM

Ok Ok!
What am I doing wrong!
Sometimes it seems to take DANGEROUSLY forever to stop, from quite slow speeds, with the brake pedal rock hard. Other times the pedal feel and retardation are fine. It's just so inconsistant.
This is a 93 RRC, one of the early attempts at ABS for a 4WD.
I've had ABS for years in BMW's and SAABs, the first one was a 1986 735i, so I'm not new to ABS.
Just don't feel comfortable with it on gravel in this Rangie.

**dobbo** · 21st September 2006, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by ytt105

Ok Ok!
What am I doing wrong!
Sometimes it seems to take DANGEROUSLY forever to stop, from quite slow speeds, with the brake pedal rock hard. Other times the pedal feel and retardation are fine. It's just so inconsistant.
This is a 93 RRC, one of the early attempts at ABS for a 4WD.
I've had ABS for years in BMW's and SAABs, the first one was a 1986 735i, so I'm not new to ABS.
Just don't feel comfortable with it on gravel in this Rangie.

Change your driving style use the terrain and lack of acceleration to slow down before you have to brake.

**ladas** · 21st September 2006, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by ytt105

Ok Ok!
What am I doing wrong!
Sometimes it seems to take DANGEROUSLY forever to stop, from quite slow speeds, with the brake pedal rock hard. Other times the pedal feel and retardation are fine. It's just so inconsistant.
This is a 93 RRC, one of the early attempts at ABS for a 4WD.
I've had ABS for years in BMW's and SAABs, the first one was a 1986 735i, so I'm not new to ABS.
Just don't feel comfortable with it on gravel in this Rangie.

I think you have answered your own question, BMW's and SAAB's are so very different from a 2 ton plus 4wd actually designed for 'bad' conditions, the driving style is so very different.

I drive a jag as a 'comfort' car, and I have to re-think driving whenever I get into the Discovery

I can't give you the answers - but how about a 4 wd off road course, or grap a chap who knows - and get him to show you, I am sure there are lots of chaps here who know most, if not all, about how to handle a big vehicle, with abs, in the worst possible conditions.

....................of course there could also be a fault with your abs if it is as you suggest alternating in road feel etc.,

**drivesafe** · 21st September 2006, 10:57 PM

Hi ytt105, if your driving at a given speed in a non ABS equipped 4x4 and you slam the brakes on, PROVIDING YOU CAN KEEP CONTROL OF THE 4x4, you WILL stop in about 30% less distance than you will be able to stop if you slam the brakes on in an ABS equipped 4x4 travelling at the same given speed.

As I posted above, you need to learn to drive and brake differently using an ABS equipped 4x4.

It’s hard to shake old habits and it takes lots of practice, ( but it’s fun learning ) and the more practice you get, the easier it becomes.

Even with the fact that you will take a longer distance to stop with ABS when you slam your brakes on, the ruling difference is that with an ABS equipped vehicle, you can maintain far greater control of your vehicle than you can with a non ABS equipped vehicle, 4x4 or otherwise.

This means that you can either end up sliding uncontrollably sideways into a tree at 30 without ABS or if you can not avoid the tree at 45, at least you can choose to hit it head-on and have a MUCH greater chance of surviving.

The other advantage with ABS is that in many cases, as you have much better control of the vehicle, you have a better chance to avoid a collision in the first place.

Cheers.

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