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    Cylinder head bolt help

    I have tried to remove cylinder head yeserday but 2 bolts at very rear out side stuck to the head and could not removed.
    Motor is on the car and it is hard to reach.
    Gave them sharp hit and used electric impact wrench, did not work.
    Did anyone had same problem? any trick removing those?
    Any suggestion appreciated.
    I do not want to put everything back again bringing to the garage removing 2 bolts.
    I am planning to buy a air compressor and impact wrench from Bunnings hardware 3.5hp compressor($189)+impact wrench($80), will it do a job? or need higher spec?
    Regards HAL
    95 Discovery V8 3.9L

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    Find a large 1/2" breaker bar, and a bit of pipe. Use only a single hex socket
    and an extension bar long enough to reach past the edge of the brake booster on the drivers side, I sometimes have to use an impact rated universal joint also. This is a two person job. one to hold the bar and socket in line and connected to bolt head, and the other to swing on the pipe. These are tight on this model V8.

    Good luck, and remember you only get one chance, if you round off the bolt head you will be pulling the engine.
    Yes, these are two of the worst bolts on a Disco or Rangie to undo.

    JC

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    If you can get one, get a solid Right angle bar and a single hex socket add one 5 foot extention bar and a helper, you will also need a wet rag a butane torch and a knockometer.

    Gently warm up the effected area with the butane torch (hot air gun or wifes hair drier will also work) apply the wet rag ontop of the area briefly trying not to get it on the head as much as possable then

    use the single hex socket on the bolt and the bar assist on the solid right angle bar then apply some friendly persuasion to the top of the bar with the knock o meter.

    repeat as required,

    If you dont get any joy after the first couple of times let the thing soak in inox/penetrene/wd40 then have another go with the heat but dont use a flame.

    Alternatively leave the block parked in the sun for half a day.. worked a treat on a lazer head

    IMHO if you have a decent electric rattler the cheap bunnings/supercheap one will not shift it either and you do not want to goto 3/4 drive as a rattler that big will either snap the bolt or strip out the threads...
    Dave

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    It is, however, a good excuse to go and buy the compressor and air ratchet as opposed to the rattle gun, you'll appreciate it more than the rattler when it comes to assembly.
    Dave

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    For $89 or less get the supercrap air tool kit, it has the air wrench, rattler, air chisel and other fittings.
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    I would agree with the breaker bar. Impact wrench is to likely to strip the bolt. For my TD5 I bought a decent beaker bar as I bent the small one I had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George130
    I would agree with the breaker bar. Impact wrench is to likely to strip the bolt. For my TD5 I bought a decent beaker bar as I bent the small one I had.

    I wouldnt be so worried about stripping the bolt out.. a stripped bolt can be pried out and the crud in the block massaged abit to get it out.... Go the other way tho and strip the block, ya gottat get the drill out, the helicoil kit, then get the engine to a point where you can drill it and get the hole drilled square....

    when you put em back together coat the bolts threads only with silver grease so that a, you get an accurate torque reading on assembly and b, can get em out easier in the future.
    Dave

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    Thanks guys.
    I have tried today as follows,
    soaked with WD40 for few hours, used heat gun (modified output not to heat cylinder block) then tried solid 1m breaker + 1m extention called friend to swing it.
    16mm hex socket has broken (cracked) at first and the bolt slipped at second and third time.
    Used air impact wrench borrowed from friend then it made the bolt more rounded.
    Now what?
    I do not have space taking out engine (I have taken out Alfa Romeo spider 4 cylinder engine in same garage before but not a Disco V8 engine because of the height)
    I guess putting everything back again taking it to the garage asking undo 2 bolts...

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    your down to locking pliers and vice grips now...

    all my advanced butchering needs more access.

    you could also try hammering an undersize socket on and then re-enforcing it with heavy duty hose clamps.

    if you have enough room to lift the heads off you could grind the tops off the bolts...

    or try doing em up till they snap...

    good luck
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    most of That ^ being my opening moves of advanced butchery but they will all take space..

    be careful doing the shorted welder trick, while it works well as you have alloy heads too much heat is UBER bad.

    if you dont have alloy heads, or an alloy block go your hardest with this...

    or try the old trick of welding another nut upside down on the first one (high tensile preferabely) then double nutting that one then using the double nuts to drive it off. not sure how well it will go for you as you cant get to teh back of the head bolts
    Last edited by Blknight.aus; 22nd October 2006 at 05:38 AM.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

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