Thread: Starting dramas- Sloved?

What sort of amps is the starter drawing ?? Did you measure it ?

Ladas

Originally Posted by easo

A little earler this mounth i posted about my 130 having a heap of troubles starting. I could get it going after a fair bit of cranking. Origanaly thought it was the glow plugs, so I had them replaced. The mech also ID the crank sensor was knackered too. I also changed the main battery. The problem still haunted me. After driving to Wodonga to catch up with blknight.aus he suspected the feul presure reg valve witch was a little stuck. Dave also helped with (did all the work) making an access pannel in the tubb to get the fuel pump. Anyway the mech stuck his volter metre on a few things and found that when the starter motor kicked in it was drawing power away from the ECU. No ECU no brrrrmmm brrrrrmmmm. This was easly overcome by disconecting the ECU from the main battery and on to the aux battery. First time starting now. However if the starter motor is drawing that much power maybe its on death row. Later I'll post some photos of the access panel in the tubb. Oh and by the way Cheers Dave for your help.

sounds like bad earths to me esp on the motor strap back to the chassis/battery...

run a couple of heavy duty dedicated earths and see whats what...

I shoulda thought of that but IT just didnt sound like it It was trying to fire and Id have thought that the pump would have dropped down when you were cranking but that didnt sound too bad..

from the sound of your startermotor its no where near deaths row, yours sounds to crank just as hard as mine which is part of the reason why I discounted the starting gear, you had enough RPM's on tap to get it to fire..

Glad to hear it was an easy fix.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

sounds like bad earths to me esp on the motor strap back to the chassis/battery...

run a couple of heavy duty dedicated earths and see whats what...

Tend to agree - and if it isn't that you haven't lost anything testing it.

Easo - Thanks for the PM on this topic, and thanks for thinking of me seeing as it looks like a similar problem.

I don't have a 2nd battery in the 130 at the moment, so I can't do the same as you did. I still get the feeling that my problem is a fuel issue, or an air in the fuel issue. If it was electrical (like yours) then it would fail to start ever, but mine eventually runs after 3 or 4 minutes of cranking and purging. Very annoying when you are in a hurry to get going.

Anyway - I will check my earth strap and see what the connection looks like. It is a 2002 TD5, so it's in pretty good nick under the seats but maybe it has some corrosion that's not obvious.

Cheers
David

Originally Posted by spudboy

Easo - Thanks for the PM on this topic, and thanks for thinking of me seeing as it looks like a similar problem.

I don't have a 2nd battery in the 130 at the moment, so I can't do the same as you did. I still get the feeling that my problem is a fuel issue, or an air in the fuel issue. If it was electrical (like yours) then it would fail to start ever, but mine eventually runs after 3 or 4 minutes of cranking and purging. Very annoying when you are in a hurry to get going.

Anyway - I will check my earth strap and see what the connection looks like. It is a 2002 TD5, so it's in pretty good nick under the seats but maybe it has some corrosion that's not obvious.

Cheers
David

Not familiar with the earth setup on the TD5, but on my 110 the excess current draw and starting problem turned out to be the engine/chassis earth. I ran a new lead from the battery to the gearbox and from the gearbox to the chassis - problem solved. In my case it was oil on the connection, not corrosion. Also note that it could simply be slightly loose, which would not be at all obvious.

John

Very nice timing on this one. My beast has gone from instant start to taking up to 30-45 second to fire. Friend has noticed that if the aircon is not turned off then it's harder to start. My aux battery is also dying but the main tested ok a week ago but was low on charge.
Thought is I have a power drain somewhere.

Originally Posted by George130

Very nice timing on this one. My beast has gone from instant start to taking up to 30-45 second to fire. Friend has noticed that if the aircon is not turned off then it's harder to start. My aux battery is also dying but the main tested ok a week ago but was low on charge.
Thought is I have a power drain somewhere.

what type of isloator are you running.....?
it sounds like the auxillary battery is pulling down your main......slowly.....
disconnect the auxillary and see if it helps........

Dose the ECU draw power even if the car is switched off? Cause now my Aux is dead. I'm running the parana system.