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    Quote Originally Posted by cal415 View Post
    btw the information about the wire to cut is either on the expedition exchange or discoweb.org sites.
    It's in the Ashcrofts instructions on their website.

    The OEM CDL kit replaces the existing D2 Transfer Box gear selector mechanism with one with an additional cable run to the top of the transfer box mechanism, where it engages the CDL spigot. You need a gearbox with a spigot to begin with, otherwise it"s a non-starter. Please ensure your vehicle is suitable, please read the information above to find out whether your gearbox is suitable, and what to order if it isn"t.
    You"ll also need a nylock nut, an M8; a washer to match; and 13 rivets - I used 4.7x17mm pop rivets.
    Apart from the usual hand tools, you may also need something which will cut laminated steel plate, and you"ll need a drill, and of course a rivet gun.
    1) Unclip the gearstick gaiters. Unscrew both gearknobs. Remove the top half of the main gearstick by removing the bolt at the join completely and sliding off.
    2) Remove the rubber cover from the gearstick area. Unclip the handbrake gaiter from the top, and peel it forwards. Remove the plastic fascia around the window switches and unscrew the switchplate. Twist it and push it into the console.
    3) Remove the pin which connects the handbrake to the handbrake cable. Remove 2 screws from inside the cubby box, and 2 screws from just in front of the transfer box lever. You can now start to lift the whole binnacle out. As you do so, disconnect the cigarette lighter connection from underneath, and remove the bulb holder.
    4) Lift out the foam around the gear lever area. Unscrew the bracket at the front of the area. Peel the carpet back and drill out the 13 or 14 rivets (depending on which plate you have) from the steel plate around the gear levers. Remove this upwards through the console.
    5) Unscrew the existing Transfer Box shift mechanism from the steel plate. Match the plate up to the new mechanism. Depending on your plate, you may need to enlarge the aperture for the gearstick. This can be done by chain drilling and/or sawing. Leave the new mechanism separate for now.
    6) Look down into the large hole you"ve just opened up, to find the CDL spigot on the top of the transfer box. It"s about a foot down, and is a threaded shaft with an oval profile at the base, in the middle of a triangle of three bolts. Undo the frontmost and left-hand bolts of the three.
    7) Take the lever end of the new mechanism and force it down towards the CDL spigot. The mounting bracket will attach to the top of the transfer box using the two bolts you just removed. Screw these bolts in loosely. The tail of the cable should be running forwards.
    8 ) Match up the keyed loop at the end of the cable to the CDL spigot. Make sure you have it the right way up Using your M8 Nylock nut, and a washer, bolt it down to the spigot.
    9) Clunk the new gearstick from side to side to see if the mechanism engages. If you do this with the ignition on, you can see the CDL light lighting up when it"s engaged. If it needs adjusting, you can adjust the two nuts either side of the mounting bracket, on the cable which is now mounted to the top of the transfer box casing. Make sure these are tight before you go any further.
    10) Line up the new lever with roughly the space it"s going to go in when you bolt the whole lot back together. You may have to do some shoving to get it in place, as the new cable will get in the way. Put the steel plate back into its hole and get a couple of rivets in to hold it in place. Force the new gearstick into its rightful place and bolt it back to the plate.
    11) Rivet the plate back in. You"ll only be able to get 13 rivets in, as the front right rivet will be blocked off by the new cable mechanism. After that, refitting is the reverse of removal.
    To finish off the job...
    1) Disconnect the battery. Unscrew the four hex screws in the glove box hinges. Reach round the side of the glove box with each hand and pull the closing mechanism upwards. Slide the glove box out
    2) Pull out the 3 push-studs on the black cardboard panel underneath the glovebox, and undo the screw stud at the back. Remove the panel.
    3) Near the outer side of the gap behind the glove box, you will see 2 or 3 ECUs, depending on whether you have ACE, I think. The SLABS ECU is the centre of the three, or the outside of the two. It has 5 black connector blocks underneath. Remove the centre block of the five from underneath the ECU.
    4) Look for the black & blue wire running to pin 9 of the connector block, which is the central pin on the lower row, i.e. the row furthest from the retaining clips. At this point, make sure you have the right connector, and the right pin!
    5) Cut this black & blue wire & tape off the ends. (Give enough space to solder it back together if you find out you have cut the wrong one...) Reconnect the connector. Replace the panel and the glovebox. Reconnect the battery.
    Please note :
    This is not needed for 2003 on (facelift) models as the ECU has been reprogrammed to take care of NOT disabling traction control/ABS when CDL in engaged, when ignition is switched on.
    To test: engage the CDL and start the car up. The CDL light should be lit, but the ABS/TC lights should not be lit up. This is correct - it means that the SLABS ECU is not disabling ABS/TC when you start the car up with the diff lock engaged
    Cheers Baz.

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    Landt Andy,

    Can you please send me the post to stewart@itsit.com.au as I cannot work out how to find the answer in my other post.

    Ta.

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    Slunnie. I only get the CDL light on the dash when I restart the engine with the CDL engaged, orange ETC or ABS lights are coming on?

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    Don't think Its had a software upgrade. How can I tell if it has?

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    When I engage the CDL and then turn off and restar the engine the CDL light on the dash is on. I was also expecting to see the ETC and ABS lights on also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    You can switch the wire to the computer so that you you can start with CDL locked. Very very easy to do.

    SWMBO probably wouldn't like the comfort, the climate control, security system, door seals, cruise control, noise levels for audible sound systems, airbags, auto transmissions either, but you're right, you cant hose them out, you do have to vacuum the mud out of the carpet.
    So your saying there is a wire you can switch so you can start the engine with CDL engaged and ETC and ABS disengaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    So your saying there is a wire you can switch so you can start the engine with CDL engaged and ETC and ABS disengaged.
    Yep, I have an AMV electronically activated CDL and previously if I stalled or turned the engine off with the CDL enagaged and then turned the car back on the ABS and TC lights would come on and obviously be disabled. I had a simple toggle switch installed which if flicked, turns off the CDL light on the dash and essentially fools the car into thinking the CDL is NOT engaged. So if I stall or turn the car off with CDL engaged, I flick the switch, turn the car back on, and then if I like flick the toggle again and the CDL comes back on.

    Useful little switch as it allows me completre control if I want things on or off.......although I have yet to really have a need to have the TC and ABS off all the time.

    Hope this helps, Mick
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    Forgot to say, the reason I fitted the toggle switch was, I used to have to physically disengage the CDL if I stalled, before I turned the car back on if I wanted the TC and ABS to remain active. I tried this on a tight hill with very little room to manouver and with the amount of bind up I had I could not get the CDL out and therfore could not get the TC or ABS back on and it was needed for the loose steep hill I was trying to climb.......in the end I had to boot it to get up spinning wheels all over the place where TC would have got me up fairly easily I would have thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickG View Post
    Forgot to say, the reason I fitted the toggle switch was, I used to have to physically disengage the CDL if I stalled, before I turned the car back on if I wanted the TC and ABS to remain active. I tried this on a tight hill with very little room to manouver and with the amount of bind up I had I could not get the CDL out and therfore could not get the TC or ABS back on and it was needed for the loose steep hill I was trying to climb.......in the end I had to boot it to get up spinning wheels all over the place where TC would have got me up fairly easily I would have thought.
    Mick the ABS and TC shouldn't disable if you stall the engine, it should only disable if you turn the ignition off and restart the car.

    This has been my experience with my aftermarket CDL actuator.

    Baz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redback View Post
    Mick the ABS and TC shouldn't disable if you stall the engine, it should only disable if you turn the ignition off and restart the car.

    This has been my experience with my aftermarket CDL actuator.

    Baz.
    That would make sense....probably just me through habit turning the key completly off before turing back on again
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