Thread: Articulation questions

Shocks will only travel to there maximum extension no further
If you Lower your Top shock Turrets you get more travel as you have lowered the initial droop of the shock this in turn compresses the shock with lowered shock turrets
Taller springs not only lift the vehicle they wont disslocate as a shorter spring will with long travel shocks depending on how much travel the shock has
it is not recomended to use a long travel shock with standard springs
with some landys they have spring retainer plates to hold the spring in place

ok lets just pretend I'm really stupid

If I put on longer shocks say an extra 40mm, then higher springs, again say 40mm. The 40mm extra on the spring would raise the body and thus the distance between the upper and lower shock mount. So really what you get is a overall 40mm lift not an extra 40mm articulation, (drop wise) at the actual wheel?

Yes a taller spring increases height but more often than not has less coils than a standard spring the standard spring will not close as much as the raised spring even if both springs are the same height the spring with the least amount of coils will compress more
As for the longer travel shock it will have way more travel than the standard shock more than 40mm thats for shure
Im no expert when it comes to this but have done enough research to know that if you raise the vehicle with longer travel shocks and raised springs you will get better articulation disconecting the swaybars gives even better travel although depending on the travel of your long travel shocks by diconecting the swaybars they may bottom out which is not good and may also lead to spring dislocation Im sure other members of the forum will have more advice on the matter

Cheers Ken

Careful....

Your on the right track but not quite there.... .

Tomorrow when I feel the urge to tap lots of keys I'll type something up in more detail (unless one of the other boys wants too)

dislocation is OK though as long as you have dislocation cones isn't it? so long as the base is retained by a clip or simmilar?

THWANG..is the noise of that dislocated spring going home....I have an extra 75mm of droop and the spring top does disengage but I have dislocation cones and spring retention clamps as not to go pear shaped. The extra droop gives me continuous ground contact, diff locks supply the traction so it was required..but a plethora of other things required also.
Steve your spending days are over, only toys you can get are for the boy
Only new shock you will see is the colour variety of poo..

Originally Posted by HangOver

ok lets just pretend I'm really stupid

If I put on longer shocks say an extra 40mm, then higher springs, again say 40mm. The 40mm extra on the spring would raise the body and thus the distance between the upper and lower shock mount. So really what you get is a overall 40mm lift not an extra 40mm articulation, (drop wise) at the actual wheel?

40mm longer shocks will be say 20mm longer when collapsed. That's the problem. The shock will top out before the bumpstops hit.

So you raise the top mount so the wheel can stuff properly, at the expense of droop. Or you pack the bump stops, get full droop at the expense of stuffing wheels in the guards.

With big tyres, you might need to pack out the bumpstops anyway - decision made.

Trust me, when the car is crossaxled & tipping, white knuckes start appearing, & you want stability. That means as much uptravel as you can get. Otherwise its the body that travels up, up & over...

Does this make sense?

Regards
Max P

Originally Posted by DirtyDawg

Steve your spending days are over, only toys you can get are for the boy
Only new shock you will see is the colour variety of poo..

hmmm sounds about true

Originally Posted by Tusker

So you raise the top mount so the wheel can stuff properly, at the expense of droop. Or you pack the bump stops, get full droop at the expense of stuffing wheels in the guards.

So is there an easy way to determine what length of shock can be used without too much mods?
I was thinking of maybe just dislocator cones, retaining clips, maybe raise the top mount 20mm or so.