Thread: How legal is it to rip the roof off a Landie?

Originally Posted by scrambler

The only chicks my Land Rovers ever pulled had feathers and beaks

The rule doesn't apply to persons with unfortunate features

Originally Posted by chosen

Yep, but only if I'm the driver!!

You must be a very good looking chick


By the way how much are them tickets you have there?


Wilbur speek to Reads90 he has a ragtop Defender, I took the roof off my SIII a few weeks ago. Apparently there are bars you can get for the Lap Sash seatbelts but I haven't found any in this country.

How much later? My 1977 Series III has lap-only. One of the Series IIIs recently photographed in Sydney (I think?) had the sash over the top of the standard seat - IMHO this isn't real safe. I have raised attachments retrofitted to a Series III FFR body - but unfortunately are specific for that body.

Originally Posted by Wilbur

Did the later model army rag tops have lap/sash or lap only belts?

If you mean the Perentie (coiller) models, they have a ROPS (Roll Over Protection System) - which is basically a double tube behind the front seats. I THINK the belts attach to that???

pre 1971?, belts were not even mandatory
From 1971 on, belts were mandatory, but I think lap-belts were legal (at least until the end of the SIII)

In QLD - there is no code for a modification that is bolt-on (factory option) - so when I turned my IIA from a hardtop into a ute, there was no need to approve anything. Same goes for converting any landie into a soft top - if it is a bolt on-off factory option. This MAY change when the NCOP is introduced.

Originally Posted by isuzurover

If you mean the Perentie (coiller) models, they have a ROPS (Roll Over Protection System) - which is basically a double tube behind the front seats. I THINK the belts attach to that???

pre 1971?, belts were not even mandatory
From 1971 on, belts were mandatory, but I think lap-belts were legal (at least until the end of the SIII)

In QLD - there is no code for a modification that is bolt-on (factory option) - so when I turned my IIA from a hardtop into a ute, there was no need to approve anything. Same goes for converting any landie into a soft top - if it is a bolt on-off factory option. This MAY change when the NCOP is introduced.

I'm glad to hear that Ben, as I was still concerned about what was involved with changing the rego when you convert to a ute. Do you have to tell Qld Transport about the change from hard top to ute?

Sorry for the Hijack

Originally Posted by paulthepilot_5

I'm glad to hear that Ben, as I was still concerned about what was involved with changing the rego when you convert to a ute. Do you have to tell Qld Transport about the change from hard top to ute?

Sorry for the Hijack

YES - you have to tell QLD transport to do it legally (and take the vehicle there so they can look at it).

The story of when I did mine:
I went to my blue plater (engineer for those in other states) to get my seats mod plated - I also asked him about the ute conversion. He told me what I wrote above - no mod code exists for it so there is nothing that needs to be approved.

I then went to QLD transport (Mt Gravatt), with a completed "change of vehicle particulars" form and told them the above (1st time I didn't have the IIA with me - they told me they needed to see it). Went back, they asked me who the engineer was who told me this (gave his name and approval number). They phoned him, then they spent 45 mins on the phone to head office, making sure this was correct. Eventually, a guy comes out, says "nice truck" and that was that.

EDIT - so given my experience, it would be worth having the details of a (friendly) engineer for transport to contact.

Interesting.....

Ben, what is the NCOP please? I am in NSW so it may not be relevant, but interesting all the same. When one state finds a way to take fun from motoring, others usually follow.

Cheers,

Paul

Originally Posted by Wilbur

Interesting.....

Ben, what is the NCOP please? I am in NSW so it may not be relevant, but interesting all the same. When one state finds a way to take fun from motoring, others usually follow.

Cheers,

Paul

National Code Of Practice. It will apply in NSW

Originally Posted by Wilbur

Interesting.....

Ben, what is the NCOP please? I am in NSW so it may not be relevant, but interesting all the same. When one state finds a way to take fun from motoring, others usually follow.

Cheers,

Paul

National Code Of Practice for Vehicle Modifications - AFAIK It will eventually be implemented in all states - possibly with some amendments.

It basically lists modifications that are permitted without prior approval, and those permitted with approval. When/if it is implememted it will limit the powers of engineers in places like NSW/VIC, and make things similar to the blue-plate system for mods in QLD.

I haven't read whet it says on this issue - but as far as landies go, if it was a factory option at the time, then you are usually fine in any state.