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    4bd1 and 4bd1-t Pricing

    Guys am looking around for a 4bd1 or T version to fit to my 130 Fender and ditch the 300tdi but a want to know what people have been paying for them and the ancillaries needed to fit as am trying to fit a GT28R into the budget. also if I am running 33" tyres and have to go for a LT95A to handle the Torque am I going to need to do anything different to the diff ratio's and or speedo?

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    I have seen prices from $3-5k for a complete 4BD1(T) in good nick. I also know a few that went for $500-800 - unknown history and missing bits like the injector pump.

    Truck motors need some mods to fit. Sump, Oil Filter, Starter.

    You will need a (custom) adaptor if you want to use your R380. But unless you can find a recently reconditioned LT85, I would go the R380 over an LT95. The LT95 is very strong, but you will miss 5th on the highway.

    You will also need to fit 1.003:1 T-case gears to your LT230. I run 33's on my 110. The gearing is a bit tall atm, but when the turbo goes on I am sure it will be perfect.

    The GT28 may be too large. I would stick with a T25.

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    in regards to the turbo choice the GT28R is what the turbo software and ARB's turbo guys and Grret recomended to me AS the 4bd1 had such a long strok that it has no problem spining a Ball bearing turbo of that size and will be perfect for 15psi boost with a cooler. its just that everone include Mal at Maxi Drive reckons the r360 and the Lt85 with his bearing kit will live a short life behind it. I would prefer to run an Isuzu 6 speed but non of the engineers in Brisvagusa that i have spoken to are interested in making an adapter to fit it to the lt230

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    Hi Nick. I got quoted just under $8k for a 'rebuilt' 4bd1-t at a truck wrecker in Sydney. I was just passing at the time, so i don't know what their interpretation of rebuilt was.... There's also some posts in the tech forum on this conversion. There's a few importers of the Chinese copy of the turbo - complete for $6750 - includes all ancillaries, but no info on their quality. At this stage the info is limited to a heavier casting. I think they weigh in at 460 odd kilos

    Queensland Motor Recyclers (QMR) advertise them in some of the truck part mags - non turbos are about $4k.

    Hope this help - if you do go the Zuzu let us know...i'm trying to justify the budget with my SWMBO

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    R380

    Quote Originally Posted by nick b View Post
    in regards to the turbo choice the GT28R is what the turbo software and ARB's turbo guys and Grret recomended to me AS the 4bd1 had such a long strok that it has no problem spining a Ball bearing turbo of that size and will be perfect for 15psi boost with a cooler. its just that everone include Mal at Maxi Drive reckons the r360 and the Lt85 with his bearing kit will live a short life behind it. I would prefer to run an Isuzu 6 speed but non of the engineers in Brisvagusa that i have spoken to are interested in making an adapter to fit it to the lt230
    There are a lot of people who reckon the R380 wont last behind an Isuzu. Well I actually have an R380 behind mine. It runs 10psi boost, 35" tyres on 4:1 diffs and has been running great for 3 years now. It all depends on who builds the gearbox, and how your drive it. I know Mal very well but he has not got an R380 behind an Isuzu!!

    Justin

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    Hope this help - if you do go the Zuzu let us know...i'm trying to justify the budget with my SWMBO[/QUOTE]

    Good luck with that
    We should start a thread on what mod we want to do = what justification we have to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillWilde View Post
    Hope this help - if you do go the Zuzu let us know...i'm trying to justify the budget with my SWMBO
    Good luck with that
    We should start a thread on what mod we want to do = what justification we have to do it[/QUOTE]

    Yeah i know...i like the "it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission" quote.

    Also, there's an american site for 4bd1's into Cruisers - they talk about the LT230 behind a Toymota 5sp or the NV4500. See if these links work...

    www.isuzudieselswapper.com

    http://cruisers.shoumatoffmedia.com/4bd.html


    Surely an adapter for the Isuzu box can't be that hard..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillWilde View Post
    Hope this help - if you do go the Zuzu let us know...i'm trying to justify the budget with my SWMBO
    Good luck with that
    We should start a thread on what mod we want to do = what justification we have to do it[/QUOTE]

    I don't need the justification/ explanation, My misses loves everything I do to the Rangie, as she thinks it is hers anyway!!!


    The only sticking point was the conversion to manual'box. Now she has got used to it and the reliability is better she is hard to get out from behind the wheel!!!

    JC

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    Hmmmm....you could leave something that stinks under the seat...or lock all the radio stations onto one she hates ..that might get her to hand over the keys..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudmouse View Post
    Hmmmm....you could leave something that stinks under the seat...or lock all the radio stations onto one she hates ..that might get her to hand over the keys..
    Well, we are used to smelly things like bits of school lunches left under the seats, and there is no wireless anyway, This is a working Rangie
    So, in order to get the keys first, I have to explain that I need the car to repair or mod and then it is all good....

    Sometimes she just lets me drive it if I have been good.


    ( All of the above is very TIC)

    JC

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