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    no argument out of me.... the difference is all in the spoolup time.
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    Talking

    Jeez, i cant blieve this mad 4 pges.

    Where r u Ron????

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    Was the "well put" comment a favourable comment about the technical explanation or a sarcastic comment about the spelling, grammar and syntax?
    Im a mechanic not an english teacher, I dont need to spell well for my job and It gives guys like you another post to your post counts when you correct my spelling.

    I care not about the spelling, you got the point......

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    getting my muffler removed today, and will be wrapping the pipes to the back of the transfercase on this truck with header tape very shortly, now i have found where i stowed the last lot i bought :P

    i do it to cut down on the mechanical noise transferred down the exhaust pipe on a diesel. well worth the fifty dollars or so the header tape sets you back IMHO.
    You should have done the before and after timing test Dave, I was pleasently surprised with the results.

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    yeah, the difference is not something to be sneezed at.

    i have to say i didn't expect the difference i have noticed. had i expected this sort of difference i would have done some sort of comparison test as it is a very measurable difference in behavior.

    next time i am pointed downhill at a big angle in low low i expect to feel a difference as well i think... for that sort of plus i would expect to find a minus in that area, hope i am wrong tho :P

    i found an extra bonus on the way home...

    mine has had a vibrating rattly noise when revved hard, must have been a baffle because it has vanished so i am twice as impressed with the results...
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    "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- a warning from Adolf Hitler
    "If you don't have a sense of humour, you probably don't have any sense at all!" -- a wise observation by someone else
    'If everyone colludes in believing that war is the norm, nobody will recognize the imperative of peace." -- Anne Deveson
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Sorry, but i don't believe it.

    Unless someone comes up with dyno numbers to show before and after, I reckon it's a perceived benefit and not real.
    The stock 300Tdi muffler is a perforated straight through design that has a larger ID than the exhaust. How can replacing this result in a huger difference ? (other than noise )

    I have a 3" mandrel bend system and the improvement over stock wasn't startling. In fact I was pretty under whelmed considering all the work that went into it.

    Honestly fella's, way back in the dim, dark distant past working as a race mechanic/engineer, I wouldn't mind a $ for every time a driver said a change we made was better/faster until we showed them the data readout or stopwatch.
    Just cause it's louder doesn't equate to faster.


    Properly papered results, would be better. not street guesstimates
    I know there are you mechanicy types out there, but have been there a done than( not on a l/r diesel), take out the resonator, but some straight pipe in, up the pipe diameter for more flow the list goes, on. The improvements none, the wallet lighter and that was it.
    I figure the engineeers of engines do have some sort of formula they work on, so why change it.

    Suburbanites with free flowing exhausts. can someone give me a justification for a change, on something that 90% of the time would be used as a daily driver. Which escape on the green light, accelerate through a roundabout?
    Your talking about a diesel, one that I have found , when properly tuned, fine on take off and drving.

    thats my take on it.


    john

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnE View Post
    Your talking about a diesel, one that I have found , when properly tuned, fine on take off and drving.
    and even smoother after it i have to say.

    having just come from an auto back to a manual i can say i wouldnt bother doing it on an auto as the effect seems to be very similar in nature to how the auto already behaves to some degree, ie allowing the motor to get some revs quicker...

    and yes the evidence is anecdotal but after driving thru 1/2hr of heavy traffic this morning on the way to MR i am more impressed.... way smoother than my last drive thru traffic and well worth the 40 bucks invested imho.
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    "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- a warning from Adolf Hitler
    "If you don't have a sense of humour, you probably don't have any sense at all!" -- a wise observation by someone else
    'If everyone colludes in believing that war is the norm, nobody will recognize the imperative of peace." -- Anne Deveson
    “What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” - Pericles
    "We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.” – Ayn Rand
    "The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts." Marcus Aurelius

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Im a mechanic not an english teacher, I dont need to spell well for my job and It gives guys like you another post to your post counts when you correct my spelling.
    ... and of course that has added one more to your count and this has added one more to mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    I care not about the spelling, you got the point......
    I think there are situations where spelling is very important but this is not one of them. I agree that the most important thing in this case is that the message is clear.
    Normally I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to correct someone else's spelling in a situation like this. It's just that I thought it was amusing that your post attracted the comment "well put" and my attempt to draw attention to the ambiguity of that comment would not have worked without pointing out the trivial typos and minor mistakes in your post.
    It was intended to be a joke about the "well put" comment, not a dig at you.
    I'm sorry you were not amused.

    However, it has just occurred to me that you might not have been offended but were just having a gentle dig at me.
    So in that case I apologise if I have taken something seriously that was intended as a lighthearted comment.

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