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    Does any body know if the viscous water pumps for a series 3 were fitted to the 6 cylender petrol models only, cause I have one fitted to my 2.25 diesle which i have been told is not original. I need to replace it as it is leaking and can only seem to get a normal pump from my auto shop.

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    I guess your talking about a viscous fan hub on your water pump? My SIII parts manual says the 2.6L six had a viscous fan drive from engine suffix "C" onwards. For the 2.25L diesel, is shows both a direct drive four-blade metal fan as standard and a viscous drive 7-blade plastic fan as "optional". No particular date or engine no. references. It looks like the pump itself is the same but the pulley drive hub and everything forward of that is different for the viscous fan.

    Send me a direct email and I'll give you a copy of the relevant pages, with all the part nos. Or better yet, find a website with the full Parts Manuals on them as a set of .pdf documents and download a set for yourself. I can't remember where I found them a few years ago but someone on here will know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo109 View Post
    I guess your talking about a viscous fan hub on your water pump? My SIII parts manual says the 2.6L six had a viscous fan drive from engine suffix "C" onwards. For the 2.25L diesel, is shows both a direct drive four-blade metal fan as standard and a viscous drive 7-blade plastic fan as "optional". No particular date or engine no. references. It looks like the pump itself is the same but the pulley drive hub and everything forward of that is different for the viscous fan.

    Send me a direct email and I'll give you a copy of the relevant pages, with all the part nos. Or better yet, find a website with the full Parts Manuals on them as a set of .pdf documents and download a set for yourself. I can't remember where I found them a few years ago but someone on here will know.
    Cheers thanks Leo 109. I managed to get the PDF for the series 3 its about 365 pages long and covers all engines.

    I got a direct drive fan for 90 bucks and will swap the hub over as it looks the same as the old viscous pump that i have. there was no listing in any part book for the 2.25 viscous water pump only the 5 cylinder when i asked the auto shop so I can only asume that the optional extra to have a viscous fan was to swap the hubs over as i will be doing.

    Any how what are the main advantages of a viscous pump over direct drive.

    cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willvine View Post
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    Any how what are the main advantages of a viscous pump over direct drive.

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    Allows the fan to run slower than the pulley at high engine speeds, while running at pulley speed at low rpm according as the slip on the viscous hub is balanced against the drag of the fan. Some are temperature sensitive so they only drive when things get hot, but I don't know about this one. This allows a fan that moves more air at low speed without excessive load/noise at high speed. Properly designed it will give either slightly better cooling and/or slightly better power and noise levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willvine View Post
    Any how what are the main advantages of a viscous pump over direct drive.
    Yeah, what John said.

    Just to clarify, you keep calling it a "viscous pump". The pumps are identical and are always directly driven by the pulley and belt from the crankshaft pulley. Only the fan is "viscous" - it is driven by the pump shaft via the viscous coupling which 'slips' at high speeds, as explained by John.
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