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                                                18th September 2007, 03:38 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Closed loop 14CUX RRC 3.9
		
 
			
				
					If you are interested enough in the title, you know what it  means.
 I have now completed the project to add O2 sensors to the 92 Range Rover.
 I took her for a drive with my very sophisticated testing device (Jaycar LED Kit with old O2 sensor) and the 14CUX  does what it is supposed to do , cycles around 14.6. Well it cycles anyway.
 If the mod had not worked, the car would have been in "limp home" mode with rich mixtures.
 The total cost was about $120 for the bits, bottle of red for the welding, and sundry wire, crimp connectors and loom tube. So lets say $150.
 You have to be very confident of your ability to wire without shorting things, and make sure everything is in the correct place, or you could possibly  destroy your ECU.
 
 If anyone is  interested enough and has a 14CUX RRC or Disco1 , PM me and I will decide whether to write it up as a project. I took some photos, but I cannot post them as I am not yet a member.
 I will email the project to those interested , if there are a few.
 So now to see what benefits to economy if any.
 
 The usual caveat applies, that I take no responsibility for any damage to any vehicle with this mod. I am happy to be a resource , but it is the individual's responsibility to ensure that procedures are followed to the letter.
 Regards Philip A
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                18th September 2007, 03:41 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					By the way, if you have a known or suspected problem with your 14 CUX , this is not a magic cure.
 You should do a diagnostic on your car before you start to ensure it is working properly, including sensors such as TPS, MAF, water temp, VSS,
 A car with over say 160K, is unlikley to respond without injectors being cleaned or replaced.
 Regards Philip A
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                18th September 2007, 07:52 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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 Got any idea of the effects on the 14cux without VSS, I've bought the blown 3.9 of 51jay and about to fit it, when I find spare time , but in an 86 with mechanical speedo, it has unichip aswell , but in an 86 with mechanical speedo, it has unichip aswell
 
 I've transplanted alot of motors and the fords seem AOK without speed input, but Holdens crack the poo's
 
 Will suck it and see regardless, but if someone knows how critical it is, its worth finding out  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                18th September 2007, 08:13 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I think the VSS just increases idle speed while moving by activating the stepper. This is to smooth the 2-1 change on stopping.
 I havent noticed any other effect but then I have never had it disconnected.
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                                                18th September 2007, 08:15 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Sounds good, don't know where I can easily source some wiring diagrams for the Unichip??
				 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                18th September 2007, 10:15 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					No , They seem to keep the programs and diagrams a secret.
 Its not hard to work out where they intercept.
 Just look at the wires into the ECU that are interrupted and trace them on a diagram.
 I am pretty sure they are just  the MAF and TPS Mine  also has a separate input from the dizzy, as it intercepts the coil signal and modifies it.
 What are you looking for, which wires from the unichip connect to which wires from the ECU???
 Regards Philip A
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                19th September 2007, 10:27 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I have now written up the project as a Word document.
 It is 5 megs as I have inserted photos and 2 pages of wiring diagrams, which are probably the big bits as they are scanned  images. So you should have broadband.
 If you want them PM me with your email address.
 Regards Philip A
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                21st September 2007, 02:16 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I have now driven a fair way on the closed loop. No economy figures for at least 2 weeks as I have a long range tank which I fill on Wednesday usually.
 Driveability is good, with a slightly softer input from stop.
 Only problem I have found is that when the engine is juuust warm, it will stall into D. This may be the reason that the MAF setting for Oxy sensors should be 1.8 volts, and not 1-1.4 for Australian spec cars, as this is richer.
 I have not yet done this.
 Overall it is going well.
 I notice a "hot" smell after turning off, so the combustion is probably hotter and burning off some oil, but the engine temp is fine.
 Regards Philip A
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                3rd August 2008, 02:42 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Pretty keen to see your install pdf Phillip that utemad was talking about. 
 
 Any chance you could email it to me? boxer@cunningstunts.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                5th August 2008, 11:46 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Just did a search on the NGK website. They list pt# OTD3G-3A1 as the sensor for 37 & 38D V8 from '90-'95 year range. These are a 3 wire sensor.
 Always had an excellent run with NGK. Will look locally as I'm in the industry and should be able to get them cheaper than your average Joe.
 Definite project me thinks.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
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