Thread: 130 Dual cab, which do I get?

If you're going to Gas it and BioD it, stick with the 300tdi. I think the td5 is a bit of an unknown when Gas and BioD.

Yes '98 is the choice option, being the last build year of the 300tdi. 120k is very young. 200k is probably what'd you expect on average.

Don't know much on the maintenance of a 300tdi as I have a td5!

I don't know anything about the 300tdi but mine has the td5 and I've not had a problem with it.
At the time of purchase I had made sure that they had that oil pump bolt problem fixed and now just do the oil and filter change myslf.
Only thing I'm going to do to mine is a chip upgrade here in Melbourne to get a little more grunt out of it.
Got a price the other day from Land Rove for $750 for the programing.
One thing they told me is that if the cpu box seriel no. starts with a N then they can programe without a chip replacement but if does not then they replace the chip for $30 extra.
Only thing with mine is a clutch and seals in the gearbox need changing and I have to do this before the baby arrives in may
Otherwise I'm happy with my 130 seeing I only owned Ser2a and ser3 military before hand.
The boss wants me to trade up to a Disco ser2 dt5 but I'm holding on for dear life to my Defender, I'm sure I'll win in the end.......fingers crossed

Find one with a dead engin at a good price then fit up a 4bd1t isuzu and a good condition LT95 4spd this will see it well past another 500k

Originally Posted by lokka

Find one with a dead engin at a good price then fit up a 4bd1t isuzu and a good condition LT95 4spd this will see it well past another 500k

i know where there is a 2000 130 with a dead motor........Q: would you be allowed to fit an older motor i.e. 4BD1T....what would the change over costs be

Originally Posted by weeds

i know where there is a 2000 130 with a dead motor........Q: would you be allowed to fit an older motor i.e. 4BD1T....what would the change over costs be

The answer would be NO as you cant fit an older engine into a newer vehical, you can do the vise versa though.

All comes down to emissions but would be a great conversion for a real early 130.

Hey thanks for the tips guys, after paying $2.5k tonight for head repairs on the damndisco I want as new a Def as I can get for around $30k so I guess it's a '03+ Td5.

I saw some chipping info today that quoted 101 up to 127kw! which would be nice!

So I guess I should post under "Wanted '03+ Defender 130 Dual Cab!"

Cheer's,

Dan

Originally Posted by mcrover

The answer would be NO as you cant fit an older engine into a newer vehical, you can do the vise versa though.

All comes down to emissions but would be a great conversion for a real early 130.

You sure can, but proving that you've applied to all ADR's of the vehicle is the test

Originally Posted by irDan

... I will ... most likely end up running some form of alternative ie. Bio/chip oil...Dan

I did some research into the SVO (straight vegetable (ie: chip) oil, after a guy at work with an old Merc running on SVO offered me unlimited fuel supply if I wanted to convert the 300Tdi.

While older Mercs & tractors run well on SVO, high speed turbo diesels seem to have problems. One of the greatest technical issues is that SVO must be heated to 180deg C before it can attain the lubricosity of diesel.

Bio-Diesel already comes modified to mimic diesel, and those I've spoken to who use it, report cleaner emissions (with a chip shop smell) and quieter engine running, as well as a bit more power (that's on TD5s). However I was at the Penrite factory picking up some oil the other week and the guy was saying there were reports of premature engine damage from vehicles using Bio-Diesel as the chemicals that break down and end up in the sump have different corrosive properties to regular diesel, for which engine oil is made. Personally, I'd hang off the Bio-D till further research was made, or until a suitable engine oil or additive was manufactured (by a reputable company). I think (I'm guessing) occasional use of a Bio-D blend would be okay as a fuel system cleaner, but I haven't done that.

If you thought $2.5K was expensive for the D1 repair (I agree it was), then realise that TD5 repairs are going to be a lot more expensive, especially if you plan on keeping the car for a long time, as the amount of modification investment you mention suggest you do.

Another option is a 130 with a dead 300Tdi to be replaced with the 2.8HS motor, which bolts straight in. It gives TD5 power without any computer stuff. About $11K though. Jase on this forum imports (or imported) them. Maybe price will be better with a stronger $AUD.