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    Ballast Resistor and Crane conversion.

    Hi.
    I was wondering if the 2a has a ballast resistor Wire in the igntion loop.
    I don't think so (there is also no "ceramic one) - but before I get my multi meter out...

    I just "fitted" a crane optical conversion. Not a nice job. "mutli-fit" really means a bad fit on all. Don't go there If any one is thinking of it. The timing is nasty to get back.

    I have a crane DMS - but she now sounds tappety on after releasing the accelorater after a rev, even though it runs better....I checked the tappets warm, got them to the required distance but..

    when she's running correctly i will get back on track in organising the barbie. This was unanticipated.

    Best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamB View Post
    Hi.
    I was wondering if the 2a has a ballast resistor Wire in the igntion loop.
    I don't think so (there is also no "ceramic one) - but before I get my multi meter out...

    I just "fitted" a crane optical conversion. Not a nice job. "mutli-fit" really means a bad fit on all. Don't go there If any one is thinking of it. The timing is nasty to get back.

    I have a crane DMS - but she now sounds tappety on after releasing the accelorater after a rev, even though it runs better....I checked the tappets warm, got them to the required distance but..

    when she's running correctly i will get back on track in organising the barbie. This was unanticipated.

    Best.
    Will.
    Hi
    Sorry but cant tell you if you have a ballast resistor or not but I fitted one of these crane systems to my RRC and wasn't sure if I needed a resistor or not so I just put one in anyway, better to be safe than sorry.
    I can honestly say it improves things no end, runs like a dream. Best thing I have done, other than getting the carbs overhauled. I would never go back to points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HangOver View Post
    Hi
    Sorry but cant tell you if you have a ballast resistor or not but I fitted one of these crane systems to my RRC and wasn't sure if I needed a resistor or not so I just put one in anyway, better to be safe than sorry.
    I can honestly say it improves things no end, runs like a dream. Best thing I have done, other than getting the carbs overhauled. I would never go back to points.
    Why the **** would you do that, it needs a ballast resistor if its a 9.6V coil and doesn't for a 12V coil, putting a ballast resistor in with a 12V coil is stoopid and the only thing it achieves is reduced spark

    Better to ask than do something stoopid, these things make baby Jesus cry

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    yes. I'm pretty sure I don't have one.

    I checked the coil.
    I know that it used to be put in by the form of "resistance" wire in the ignition loop in older vehicles,
    This was my main question. Did they do this on the series vehicles?

    I'll double check anyway. Crane "strongly recomend" the bypassing of the ballast btw.
    But they also say ALL points vehicles have Ballast Resistors..

    It is to keep the spark strong when the starter motor is engaged i beleive?
    I'm still a little unsure to how that works with less current.Is it dropped out of the loop when the ignition start is engaged?

    Thanks.
    will.

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    all points vehicles don't have ballast resistors, only where the ignition system needs less than the 12v that the system produces. I needed one for my holden conversion because it was a 6v coil and dizzy, trouble was it always had 12v running through it and it killed them both. I've got an electronic dizzy and coil from a blue motor now which runs on 12v, so I just wired it straight in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    only thing it achieves is reduced spark

    Better to ask than do something stoopid
    I wasn't sure if it would affect the CraneCams ignition unit or the coil so I asked on here and got several differing responses so rather than risk having to buy a new $$$ unit I put on the ballast resistor.

    My RRC starts first time everytime, and runs like, to quote Lord BlackAdder
    "The privy door when the plagues in town"

    So I'm a happy bunny, I wouldn't say a stupid one.
    But thanks all the same for your eloquent response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HangOver View Post
    I wasn't sure if it would affect the CraneCams ignition unit or the coil so I asked on here and got several differing responses so rather than risk having to buy a new $$$ unit I put on the ballast resistor.

    My RRC starts first time everytime, and runs like, to quote Lord BlackAdder
    "The privy door when the plagues in town"

    So I'm a happy bunny, I wouldn't say a stupid one.
    But thanks all the same for your eloquent response.
    Just because it works, doesn't mean its the correct way

    Edit:

    ignition > coil : voltages/amps plz help!

    Did you do as PhillipA suggested??
    Last edited by rovercare; 6th December 2007 at 10:51 AM.

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    G'day WilliamB

    Are you back in Brisbane?? (like your Loc says)

    The Series Landrover didn't have a resistor in the system, BUT check the base of the Coil, if it has stamped on it Use with a Resistor it is a 9.6 v jobbie and wrong, weak spark, if unstamped it will be 12v, unless the Elect Ign. instructions say to fit a Resistor don't, the better electronic unit is the Lumenition from UK for the 4cylinder Landy, www.lumenition.com it is a simple distributor base plate change-over, there is an article in the LRMonthly Mag (LRM Nov07)

    cheers
    Last edited by Phoenix; 6th December 2007 at 11:48 AM.

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    Check out this page it may be of some help re: voltages etc

    Here

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    Hi. Thanks all.
    I actually just replaced the dizzy with a new unit - while it was out re-fitted the crane. Mucho neater this time with good clearance etc.
    Thanks for all the input -

    It's all going back in the engine bay now with a general wiring loop/coil cleanup.
    I have an "inteligent" DMS unit that I can hook in the loop if I wish..??

    new carbie and ignition..ooooh!

    No, Uncle Ho - still in Sydney. Will be up in a couple of weeks. I'll let you know (and cahnge my details.)

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