Issues with new D3 TDV6

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Originally Posted by Bisho

show em' who's the man!

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only want this sorted!! Not an unreasonable expectation after spending a $100k on car!

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Originally Posted by WhiteD3

Peter,

Sorry to here about your problems. Touch wood mine's been faultless so far.

Re the wiper blades; I found they were crap as standard and have since replaced them with Aunger blades which work a treat.

Front recovery point; behind the plastic panel under the front number plate.

FYI I've learned that it's best practice to leave this cover in the garage at home when going off road!

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ahh so that is where the bloody thing is, sheesh. Just as well I had the towbar gooseneck attached as we put the snatching strap on that.

Where do you get the aungers? supercheap? Any particular ones to get?

cheers
Peter

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Originally Posted by 2002TD5Auto

Pete

Does it do the hesitation thing all the time?

If so simply take the mechanic with you and replicate it? (while filming it)

Enough pressure and use of S75A TPA normally wins the day.

WRT to S75A YOU have the right to a full refund - basically it is your choice.

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nope does not do it all of the time. It is better since they uploaded latest s/w patch when it was in for 6k service. It was a 9.9 / 10 problem then, now it is a 7 / 10 problem.

The issue is you never know when it is going to happen which causes you to drive like an old lady with a bowls hat on!! Or a Camry driver :cool:

S75A TPA and solicitors are last resort. I am hoping this can be sorted out.

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Originally Posted by stevo68

I have the V8, so can't comment on the TDV6's, but obviously a major problem, pity you dont have a dealer like I have here on the Coast as they are excellent. Also did same thing getting bogged in sand at Bribie on first outing, full tyre pressue, high range, DSC on. Also got snatched out. Once aired down, low range and DSC off, no problems and none since. Likely reason that locker didnt engage was you already bogged, maybe with some momentum in low range it may have locked in. As per previous bogging, I got bogged again 100 metres up the beach :mad: and a nice chap checked to see if the air was out of the tyres, they werent and I was still in high range. He and his son aired down my tyres, told me to put it into low range, DSC off and she popped herself straight out. Big lesson learnt. DSC helps to prevent wheels spinning, in sand you need the wheels to spin to maintain momentum. I also switch it off in mud,

Regards

Stevo

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cool, thanks for that. Will have to try the DSC thing off. I drove nearly the full length of Straddy with no dramas after the bogging incident. Had DSC on, only used low for the really soft and heavy stuff, rest of the time kept it in high. Tyres down to about 18psi.

Seem to recall from my old RAAF days that we used to drop the 110s down to about that and they flew through the sand even with the poohey tyres on them.

cheers
Peter

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Originally Posted by Peter_OZ

ahh so that is where the bloody thing is, sheesh. Just as well I had the towbar gooseneck attached as we put the snatching strap on that.

Where do you get the aungers? supercheap? Any particular ones to get?

cheers
Peter

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Supercheap. 530mm I think. You have to buy the kit, not just the blades. Cost was $12 ea from memory.

Did Bribie in early 2007 at 24psi and DSC on with no probs. That's me at the northern end in my avatar. I have learnt though that the DSC should be off for mud!

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Just as well I had the towbar gooseneck attached as we put the snatching strap on that.

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In case you werent aware, where the tow points are ( ie power) there is a rear recovery point as well built into the chassis, ie have to take off the plastic cover to get to it. I now just leave the front and rear one off all the time.....just in case :D,

Regards

Stevo

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Originally Posted by Peter_OZ

ahh so that is where the bloody thing is, sheesh. Just as well I had the towbar gooseneck attached as we put the snatching strap on that.

cheers
Peter

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doesn't the owners manual mention where the recovery points are ?

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Originally Posted by stevo68

I have the V8, so can't comment on the TDV6's, but obviously a major problem, pity you dont have a dealer like I have here on the Coast as they are excellent. Also did same thing getting bogged in sand at Bribie on first outing, full tyre pressue, high range, DSC on. Also got snatched out. Once aired down, low range and DSC off, no problems and none since. Likely reason that locker didnt engage was you already bogged, maybe with some momentum in low range it may have locked in. As per previous bogging, I got bogged again 100 metres up the beach :mad: and a nice chap checked to see if the air was out of the tyres, they werent and I was still in high range. He and his son aired down my tyres, told me to put it into low range, DSC off and she popped herself straight out. Big lesson learnt. DSC helps to prevent wheels spinning, in sand you need the wheels to spin to maintain momentum. I also switch it off in mud,

Regards

Stevo

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Steve.. that's really suprising about the DSC. Basically the DSC shouldn't be intervening at all. However switching off the DSC aslo switches of Traction Control.

TC is normally a good thing and it isn't even switchable in a defender (not easily anyway). Whats more I've driven all sorts of places on sand and never had a problem with it. What's more, there have been a couple of occasions where I've felt the car starting to dig into the sand and next thing the TC comes in and the car feels to leap out of the hole it was digging for itself. :eek:

Edit: I think it's possible that the TC is working overtime becase of the over inflated tyres. When with friends on the beach next time try leaving it on but air the tyres down first!

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Steve.. that's really suprising about the DSC. Basically the DSC shouldn't be intervening at all. However switching off the DSC aslo switches of Traction Control.

TC is normally a good thing and it isn't even switchable in a defender (not easily anyway). Whats more I've driven all sorts of places on sand and never had a problem with it. What's more, there have been a couple of occasions where I've felt the car starting to dig into the sand and next thing the TC comes in and the car feels to leap out of the hole it was digging for itself. :eek:

Edit: I think it's possible that the TC is working overtime becase of the over inflated tyres. When with friends on the beach next time try leaving it on but air the tyres down first!

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Starting to get past my very little technical knowledge here :D, but I generally have had it on in Sand in the past, but it does say in the manual to switch off DSC in sand, though as far as I know TC is still active. Aside from the one memorable time of being bogged in sand, that has been it.

Regards

Stevo

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Originally Posted by Peter_OZ

we purchased a new 2007 D3 TDV6 in August from Pacific Land Rover at Marroochydore, QLD.
It has a number of problems with it, the most severe being a response problem that has left us stranded accross roundabouts and while changing lanes.

When it occurs it is like the engine is off, there is no response at all. Then after several seconds of "thinking" about it, off it goes. As you can imagine when you put your foot down to accelerate into a gap or through a roundabout etc the last thing you want is to have no reponse. The wife is extremely wary about it as am I.

We nearly got cleaned up by a truck as aresult of it. Imagine trying to pull out of a side street and not knowing if it is going to respond!!!!!!

LR do not seem to care too much.

It is very dangerous and my thoughts are that it makes the vehicle "unfit for purpose"

Now the dealer has fiddled with it on a number of occasions, has loaded all the latest software patches and acknowledged that there is a known problems with these vehicles in regard to the response issue.

They are now trying to duckshove the issue by saying it is a turbo lag problem, I know what turbo lag is and this is certainly not that.

After putting the vehcile in for it's 12,000km service the other day they have now sent the software off to Sydney for it to be analysed by LR technical dept down there, I believe they (Sydney LR) send it off to LR UK for their thoughts.

Lastly when we took delivery the wipers left a marked line accross the windscreen in several locations. I pointed this out to the dealer and they refuse to rectify the problem. This is outrageous. I pointed out that it was a roadworthy item and they just shrugged and could not care less.

I'm really getting Peed off now and wonder if anyone else is having problems and what they have done or are doing about it.

By the way I took it on the beach for the first time over the break, forgot to let the tyres down and bogged it down to the doors. :angel:

I did have it in sand mode, but in high range. I tried to get the active diff lock to engage but without any luck.
In the end a guy in a pajero pulled up, he get bogged too. His mrs was very nice though and as it was very windy her skimpy little dress was all over the place hehe

Then a guy in a cruiser rocked up, we dug the wheels out and I was snatched out backwards. No hook that I could see on the front:twisted:

The pajero then got pulled out too. Just as well the tide was on way out as I was close to the water line but still in the soft stuff.

Went back next day, let tyres down to 18psi, sand mode, low range, 2nd and it flew through it. Once past the really soft sand I put it into high range and it cruised easily in 4th at about 60km/h. Temp did not budge.

Curious about the active diff locker as LR reckon it is automatic when you are in low range when it detects the lack of traction. I would have liked to be able to lock it in manually.

Other thing they said was to turn DSC off when in the soft sand. Any thoughts on that?

cheers
Peter

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The "no response" symptom sounds like what I had last week. See my post in the D3 Zone forum. I had put my foot down to enter the freeway and it died. I immediately pulled over and stopped and restarted the car so did not see if it came good after a delay. The dealer said it was a turbo replace job. Still waiting for parts after 8 days even though they said overnight delivery from interstate. Does anyone know if there is a shortage of turbos:(