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    Hey Pedro
    Now you have discovered WHICH wheel isnt working for you can you do the skid test and see if the OPPOSITE wheel to the non working wheel sensor is the one that skids as mine did.It will help with others later if we say skid your cars wheels,the opposite wheel sensor is your problem.Also what sort of speedo readings did you get??? Mine were 4 times what the single wheel should be reading for the same rpm in 5th at idle,a tad harder to check in your self shifter,but you should have a rough idea.
    Hope you get hold of a sensor from the supplier I mentioned in the PM,I didnt want to know what a newie is worth!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    The speedo reads 120kmh at idle in fith!!!!!.Confused!!!!
    Andrew
    That's about right. 120 divided by 4 (ony 1 of the 4 wheels is turning so its travelling 4 X as fast as it would normally) = 30.
    5th gear 40kph / 1000rpm = 30kph for 750rpm.
    I'll buy that.
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    That is my thought too Greame,it was suggested by a member that a wheel sensor reading that sort of speed is faulty,the same person also suggests that the skiding wheel has the faulty sensor.My opposite on the same axle skids.
    Was hoping Pedro discovers the same as I have so in future Pedro and myself can pass the correct info on to D2 owners as its such a common fault.
    Ive got a secondhand sensor coming,will see if it fixes everything.
    Thanks
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    It would be good to determine a rule for identifying which wheel is the culprit. But having a wheel doing 120kph whilst idling on a block is a bit scary. Maybe 1st gear is a safer option.
    Good luck with the research.
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    hmm, I must be getting old,,
    I just let in idle in D


    and it read,, oh around 20kph??
    or should I say 3 did.

    will need a spotter for the brake test,, so it might have to wait till the weekend,,
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    Seems like I need to look at how i present some of my info.....

    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    I did the skid test,found that the right rear skided.
    OK decided to clean that sensor again,jacked up the rr with the trolley jack pushed the garden hose up where the sensor wire goes and turned the wheel whilst the water was running.Started the car up eased it into gear,speedo works!!!!.
    Then repeated the same on the left rear,NO SPEEDO!!!!! found the culprit,the left rear sensor or a wiring fault for the left rear sensor.The fronts both made the speedo work.
    The speedo reads 120kmh at idle in fith!!!!!.Confused!!!!
    Andrew
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    that sounds like a dud sensor, the computer averages out the wheel speeds to get vehicle speed and ignores any that are obviosuly telling fibs
    to that I was intending that to mean that the sensor that wasnt giving a reading was dud and that under normal circumstances the computer will average out all the working sensors (for when your cornering or have a wheel spinning/slipping)
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    Hi Dave
    No agro intended.
    From Pedros/mine and anybody who can hop in with the same issue. Im hoping to stay to others in the future,do a good skid in your D2 note the skidding wheel.Go to the shed jack the opposite wheel on the same axle and discover no speedo reading.Then repeat for the others and hopefully find that the other 3 have the speedo working.
    The problem then lies with the sensor with no speed reading despite passing the resistance value.Wont know till I replace the sensor I belive is faulty,but all seems to make sense,
    Is the Defender a true 4 channel ABS system as the D2 or just front rear 2 channel ABS as other cars have???
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    no aggro intended I reread it then had the wife read it and she mis-interpreted it the same way.. so rather than edit I had a crack at trying to explain it properly

    ITs a true 4 channel abs as it uses the same sensors to control traction control and the ABS/Tc pump block has 4 seperate oulets, one for each wheel..


    but I have a theory on the wheel skidd thing...

    what if a faulty sensor on one wheel disables that axle. then it will come down to normal physics as to which wheel will slip first. the non effected axle will have abs so wont slip but the effected axle will be a different story, what If I jagged it to get the wheel with the crook sensor to skid and you hooked it the other way?....
    Dave

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    just pulled the sensor out,,,
    and everyone can stop thinking "a good hose out" will fix this

    some iron type filings on the end, but thats all, end was clean otherwise.
    cleaned and replaced and made no difference,,

    am ASSUMING I will be doing a brake test around lunchtime today--
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    cant see why one faulty wheel sensor would disable both sides-- isnt this why we have 4way ABS?
    (the above sentence contains no actual knowledge of how 4way differs to 2 way or hiway ABS)
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