Filtermag - Does it Work or is it Snake Oil?

I do not know this product or if it works, but there is a lot of stuff out there that big multinationals do not want us to use and will spend millions to discredit them. I generally do not buy stuff like this unless it can be proven to be effective. It is in a car manufacturers benefit to make sure parts and cars have a finite standard life so you have to buy another. The technology is around to build a car that would last us a lifetime.
Magnets have many benefits and as said heavy haulage companies use a similar concept, but their engines do a lot more miles and hard work.

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

theres a problem with his site. hes got the oil flow backwards.....

doesnt the oil flow from inside to out or is that just series?

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nup, flow is from outside in to the centre tube.





I reckon we need to expand on 'Zooks idea re the air conditioning and patent Hiclones for use in ducted systems. Each supply duct utilises a Hiclone, as do the return airs.
The worlds your oyster, Zook :D

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Originally Posted by CraigE

The technology is around to build a car that would last us a lifetime.

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Yes, but you'd never afford it, so they'd never sell any and would go out of business.
Hence the tradeoff of cost vs life.

magnets off microwave magnatrons are the go been useing them for years

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Originally Posted by 460cixy

magnets off microwave magnatrons are the go been useing them for years

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Just be warned, in case anyone wants to pull a microwave oven apart, that potentially lethal voltages can exist inside them long after they have been unplugged and thrown on the dump. :eek::eek: A cobber of mine demonstrated it to me one day; I think the charge is stored in capacitors.

Old speakers have u-beaut magnets in them; probably a little excessive for an oil filter though,

Cheers Charlie

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Originally Posted by thethink

hey, to degauss a td5, could you run a reverse polarity pulse through the engine's electrickery..??

like just swapping the battery leads over just before shutdown :o

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have you worked on a landy.......??

i think prince lucas has alraedy taken care of that......
the way he has routed the wiring on a landy is so unique......there is no need to degauss......

ever.......

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Originally Posted by Dougal

Yes, but you'd never afford it, so they'd never sell any and would go out of business.
Hence the tradeoff of cost vs life.

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The sad thing is most of the composite materials are available in bulk at the same if not cheaper than current components, but would warrant mass production and most companies want to sell you as many of their product as they can without you realising you are being ripped off. It will happen but in 100-200 years when we run out of natural resources.

I am aware of the use of a magnetic field in diesel fuel supply lines for the purpose of killing diesel bug. It's called the L1000 Fuel Treatment and it originates from Smart Auto Systems in Wellington, NZ. I can't find any reference to them on the web - I can only find a reference to a series of tests using them in Panama - so maybe the company no longer exists.

It was sufficiently well regarded by Telstra Broadcast infrastructure designers to be incorporated into the fuel systems of many of the larger Emergency Power Plants on the high power broadcast sites which they constructed for the two national broadcast networks, back in the '90's.

They are still in service and we never have a problem with diesel bug, although we do have occasional (rare really) issues with water contamination in the underground fuel tanks which is likely to promote its growth. However many of the sites are configured to cycle the fuel in the underground storage tanks through the "day tank" filters (and L1000 units) on a monthly basis and this should trap any contaminants, although if there were a severe infestation of diesel bug, it would clog the filters - I'm not aware of this happening at all.

I'm not saying it works, but it's interesting that it was accepted as a legitimate accessory for diesel gen-sets by a major corporate entity. If anyone is really interested I do have a pdf of the spec sheet which comes with the units (which look just like a fuel filter except the housing appears to be cast aluminium and is quite substantial) but it's a bit big to post here.

The opening paragraph reads ...

"The device, when fitted on the suction side of a diesel engine's fuel system will constantly treat the symptoms, providing systematic control of microbial contaminants. The De-Bug unit is not a filter; it is a static treatment unit. Fuel is passed through the De-Bug before it reaches the lift pump, through a carefully calculated magnetic field for a controlled period of time. As the microbes pass through the differing magnetic fluxes, tests show they disrupt and die leaving no residue. Average size trucks have shown to burn clean within 48 hours.
Sludge and water will settle in the bowl and can be drained out at regular intervals using the drain screw fitted to the bowl base.
This unit is suitable for engines ranging from 90 to 600HP. It is also possible to install two L1000 units in parallel to each other, to increase the flow rate - capacity to 2000 litres per hour.

Application:
For Diesel Fuel, Marine Diesels, Light Diesels, Light Oils, and Gas Oil
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Size:
110mm dia / 190mm high
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Materials:
LM6 Aluminium / Marine Grade / Anti Corrosive
Spacers - Acatyle High Tensile Plastic
Magnets - Ceramic Isotropic
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Again, I pass no judgement on whether it works or not, I just find it interesting.

I seen these oil filter magnets a while ago but can't understand why anyone would pay lots of $$ for them.

Why not get a cheapo/free magnet and just $2 glue it to the filter and discard it when changing. Or epoxy a magnet to your drain plugs.

Cheapo magnet $2 epoxy $2

I know I know I'm a cheap B...........

just a thought, would it be better to have the metallic bits, if there, stuck in the filter media, or at or near the bottom of the can on a smooth surface when the by-pass valve opens and oil pressure and flow is pretty damn high.....
How good are these magnets ? ;)

I can see the point on a transmission/diff without any filtration whatsoever, but an engine usually has an effective full flow filter.

Anyway, I wouldn't even bother on a TD5 as you already have one of the most effective by-pass filters in the world. The bloke I know that fits the Mann-Hummel centrifuges to his DD60 Series engines stopped using Donaldson ELF full flow filters as whenever they cut them open, they were spotlessly clean, so they replaced the full flows with 30 micron stainless cleanable baskets. The centrifuges were pretty much catching everything ;)